Adolf Hitler is named chancellor of Germany... (1 Viewer)

[enricoquinto]

Hi everyone,


as you can see below, I've tried to imagine that scene... {sm2}

"On 30 January 1933, Adolf Hitler formally became chancellor of Germany.* Who could or would have predicted the next 12 years ... "

Best regards

Enrico :smile2:

 

[Larry Allen]

"On 30 January 1933, Adolf Hitler formally became chancellor of Germany.* Who could or would have predicted the next 12 years ... "
Enrico :smile2:

A very good question and one I don't know if anybody has a solid answer.

Although WWII is not a series that I collect, I do know a fair amount of WWII history. Hitler did win the election with something like 90% of the vote.. .... but very few would dare to vote against him? (10%) {sm2}

With 38 million votes cast that means there is 3.8 Million GERMANS, who were brave enough to vote "Nein" and DID NOT want him elected.

It does make one ponder if ONE of those 3.8 million people had successfully assassinated him at an early stage what would history books look like!

PS: Oh ya' wonderful scene as always ...!

--- LaRRy

 

[Malcolm Britain]

The NSDAP won 37% of the popular vote in last election prior to this event - held November 1932. In the election held later in 1933 they increased their vote share to around the mid 40s. This latter vote after not inconsiderable intimidation of political opponents. This was the last free vote in Germany until after death of Hitler. At no point did Hitler and his evil gang ever receive a greater that 50% share of the popular vote in Germany in a democratically staged election.

None of the above invalidates Larry's point however. All that can be said is that numerous people tried to knock off Adolf and through a combination of bad luck and bad judgement..all failed.

The British plan to assassinate Hitler "Operation Foxley" never went ahead as planners were concerned that such an act would strengthen the resolve of the Germans and prolong the war.

Thank you for reminding us of this event. A very interesting figure group. Is it a commercially available set?

Here I am also remembering the brave people who suffered to rid the earth of this regime.

M

 

[jazzeum]

Larry, I believe you're mistaken. In the last free parliamentary elections in 1933, the Nazi Party won 288 seats out of a possible 647, approximately 44 percent.

In the 1938 elections, which were obviously not free, the Nazis won 99.5 percent of the seats.

 

[PanzerAce1944]

The NSDAP won 37% of the popular vote in last election prior to this event - held November 1932. In the election held later in 1933 they increased their vote share to around the mid 40s. This latter vote after not inconsiderable intimidation of political opponents. This was the last free vote in Germany until after death of Hitler. At no point did Hitler and his evil gang ever receive a greater that 50% share of the popular vote in Germany in a democratically staged election.

None of the above invalidates Larry's point however. All that can be said is that numerous people tried to knock off Adolf and through a combination of bad luck and bad judgement..all failed.

The British plan to assassinate Hitler "Operation Foxley" never went ahead as planners were concerned that such an act would strengthen the resolve of the Germans and prolong the war.

Thank you for reminding us of this event. A very interesting figure group. Is it a commercially available set?

Here I am also remembering the brave people who suffered to rid the earth of this regime.

M

Malcolm, This 2 figure set has been available now for several months now .....$69.00 for the 2 figure set. Most K&C dealers carry it under the LAH / Berlin 38' category.

Wayne

 

[Malcolm Britain]

Thanks Wayne. Not a K&C buff but I do appreciate their quality. I am not sure yet whether Larry likes them {sm4} {sm4}?

 

[Larry Allen]

The NSDAP won 37% of the popular vote in last election prior to this event - held November 1932. In the election held later in 1933 they increased their vote share to around the mid 40s. This latter vote after not inconsiderable intimidation of political opponents. This was the last free vote in Germany until after death of Hitler. At no point did Hitler and his evil gang ever receive a greater that 50% share of the popular vote in Germany in a democratically staged election.

None of the above invalidates Larry's point however. All that can be said is that numerous people tried to knock off Adolf and through a combination of bad luck and bad judgement..all failed.

The British plan to assassinate Hitler "Operation Foxley" never went ahead as planners were concerned that such an act would strengthen the resolve of the Germans and prolong the war.

Thank you for reminding us of this event. A very interesting figure group. Is it a commercially available set?

Here I am also remembering the brave people who suffered to rid the earth of this regime.

M

Larry, I believe you're mistaken. In the last free parliamentary elections in 1933, the Nazi Party won 288 seats out of a possible 647, approximately 44 percent.

In the 1938 elections, which were obviously not free, the Nazis won 99.5 percent of the seats.

Good Evening Gents,

I would never argue WWII facts with anyone of this FORUM!:salute::

Not understanding the political structure of the German state in 1933 and beyond has always been a bit of a mud puddle.
So I gracefully bow to the knowledge one.

Here was the link that I found that talks about the 90% vote and such. Where did I confuse the issue?

http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/holocaust/h-becomes.htm.

There is a paragraph, about halfway down that says ...

On August 19, about 95 percent of registered voters in Germany went to the polls and gave Hitler 38 million votes of approval (90 percent of the vote). Thus Adolf Hitler could claim he was Führer of the German nation by direct will of the people. Hitler now wielded absolute power in Germany, beyond that of any previous traditional head of state. He had become, in effect, the law unto himself.


So what am I not understanding ...^&confuse

--- LaRRy

 

[Larry Allen]

Thanks Wayne. Not a K&C buff but I do appreciate their quality. I am not sure yet whether Larry likes them {sm4} {sm4}?

Hey Malcolm .. ya' well the jury is still out on that ... {sm4}

I have about 1750 K&C AWI figures ... as you are seeing ...
A bunch of JN figures and planes (100 +/-)

A modest set of K&C US Navy and US Air Force....

So I guess that there might be a chance that I am partial to KING and COUNTRY. {sm3} {sm3}

--- LaRRy

 

[Malcolm Britain]

Hi Larry

I think the vote you are referring to was in 1934 and was not an election. I have not studied this in any depth on the past but I believe it was a stage managed vote for propaganda purposes with a choice of one candidate or a permanent entry in the state police files. Mind you in the mood of the times in Germany it is not surprising that a strong leader who appeared to offer salvation from almost 20 years of war , economic misery and humiliation at the hands of the Allies after the end of the Great War proved to be popular

Enjoy the 4th of July.

M

 

[jazzeum]

Larry, that was a plebiscite, not an election. Moreover, it was not a free choice, unlike 1933 and prior.

 

[enricoquinto]

Hi mates,


I've felt guilty...:redface2: I didn't want to get drawn into a discussion about it. I'm sorry to anyone else I may have hurt. I enjoy collecting toy soldiers and I like sharing with you my pictures. Doesn't matter if you're right or if you're wrong. I don't care. However, I believe it is a positive thing that you are interested in history. "Encouraging an interest in history should be at the heart of our society's concerns, for a society which is ignorant of its own past has no sense of its own history".:rolleyes2:

I thank everyone for their contributions to the "debate", welcoming every single contribution.

Enjoy your favourite hobby!!!

Best regards

Enrico

 

[Malcolm Britain]

Hi mates,


I've felt guilty...:redface2: I didn't want to get drawn into a discussion about it. I'm sorry to anyone else I may have hurt. I enjoy collecting toy soldiers and I like sharing with you my pictures. Doesn't matter if you're right or if you're wrong. I don't care. However, I believe it is a positive thing that you are interested in history. "Encouraging an interest in history should be at the heart of our society's concerns, for a society which is ignorant of its own past has no sense of its own history".:rolleyes2:

I thank everyone for their contributions to the "debate", welcoming every single contribution.

Enjoy your favourite hobby!!!

Best regards

Enrico

Spot on Enrico. It is one of the attractions of toy soldiers that they link us with the past and remind us of the lessons of history and encourage us to learn more about whether it is the figures themselves, the uniforms or the historical context.

I dont think there is any reason for you to feel guilty in any way..in fact I am sure there isn't. This event is history. There are figures produced and you have shown them off in a super little scene.

Although I prefer the rather more glossy soldiers which I feel are one step further away from the muck and bullets of warfare than those presented in a more realistic style sets such as these are interesting and in my opinion do not attempt to carry a political message.

Keep up the good work

 

[enricoquinto]

Spot on Enrico. It is one of the attractions of toy soldiers that they link us with the past and remind us of the lessons of history and encourage us to learn more about whether it is the figures themselves, the uniforms or the historical context.

I dont think there is any reason for you to feel guilty in any way..in fact I am sure there isn't. This event is history. There are figures produced and you have shown them off in a super little scene.

Although I prefer the rather more glossy soldiers which I feel are one step further away from the muck and bullets of warfare than those presented in a more realistic style sets such as these are interesting and in my opinion do not attempt to carry a political message.

Keep up the good work

Hi Malcolm,

I couldn't agree more with you Thanks a lot for the nice words. I try to do my best.


Cheers

Enrico:smile2:

 

[Larry Allen]

Hi mates,


I've felt guilty...:redface2: I didn't want to get drawn into a discussion about it. I'm sorry to anyone else I may have hurt. I enjoy collecting toy soldiers and I like sharing with you my pictures. Doesn't matter if you're right or if you're wrong. I don't care. However, I believe it is a positive thing that you are interested in history. "Encouraging an interest in history should be at the heart of our society's concerns, for a society which is ignorant of its own past has no sense of its own history".:rolleyes2:

I thank everyone for their contributions to the "debate", welcoming every single contribution.

Enjoy your favourite hobby!!!

Best regards

Enrico

Good Morning Enrico,

As Malcolm said ... What is there to be guilty about? ... ZERO.

That is what this site is all about. People who love History and Toy Soldiers. We are all here to learn and have a great time. You are certainly making a lot of people happy with your wonderful posts.

WWII European Theater is NOT my strongest point ... and I thank Brad and Malcolm for teaching me a bit more or the political structure of Pre-WWII Germany.

I am much more comfortable on Pre-WWII Japan and the entire Pacific theater WWII than I am with Europe.
Maybe a bit more on the American Revolution.

Either way, your comment was 100% an interesting and deep question ... unfortunately we will never know ..but it is a heck of a lot of fun to ponder.

So my friend, keep posting those great shots and putting forth those thought provoking questions ...{sm4}

--- LaRRy

 

[enricoquinto]

Good Morning Enrico,

As Malcolm said ... What is there to be guilty about? ... ZERO.

That is what this site is all about. People who love History and Toy Soldiers. We are all here to learn and have a great time. You are certainly making a lot of people happy with your wonderful posts.

WWII European Theater is NOT my strongest point ... and I thank Brad and Malcolm for teaching me a bit more or the political structure of Pre-WWII Germany.

I am much more comfortable on Pre-WWII Japan and the entire Pacific theater WWII than I am with Europe.
Maybe a bit more on the American Revolution.

Either way, your comment was 100% an interesting and deep question ... unfortunately we will never know ..but it is a heck of a lot of fun to ponder.

So my friend, keep posting those great shots and putting forth those thought provoking questions ...{sm4}

--- LaRRy

Hi LaRRy,


thank you for such kind words that lift spirit. I've really appreciated your compliment so... I'll take your suggestion!!!! I’m going to keep posting and probably more frequently soon.


Keep in touch


Enrico