Napoleonic Trivia #56 (1 Viewer)

[Grognard]

Which unit(s) of Napoléon's army never got defeated in combat?

 

[Obee]

My guess would be the Grenadiers a pied of the Imperial Guard.

But its probabaly something like the Pay Corps, or Gendarmes...

Veterinary Service,

Battalion of Military Artisans,

Army Postal Service,

Printing Service,

but NEVER ARTILLERY !!!!!!



John

 

[Grognard]

My guess would be the Grenadiers a pied of the Imperial Guard.

But its probabaly something like the Pay Corps, or Gendarmes...

Veterinary Service,

Battalion of Military Artisans,

Army Postal Service,

Printing Service,

but NEVER ARTILLERY !!!!!!



John

Good thinking but not the right answer John!

 

[Napoleon1er]

Garde engineers, marines?

 

[Grognard]

Garde engineers, marines?

Not the right answer, sorry.

 

[Napoleon1er]

Branch of service, s.v.p.?

 

[Grognard]

Branch of service, s.v.p.?

Cavalry!

 

[Napoleon1er]

Polish Lancers.:salute::

 

[Grognard]

Polish Lancers.:salute::

That's one, bravo! But there is another one :wink2:

 

[Grognard]

That's one, bravo! But there is another one :wink2:

Any guess anyone?

 

[Grognard]

OK guys, I give you the answer before turkey day in the US...

Apparently the 2 following units in Napoléon's army never got defeated in combat. Both are Guard cavalry units:

1. Polish Lancers

1. Horse Grenadiers (nicknamed The Giants or The Gods) > BTW would be a nice addition to any Nap collection (hint, hint).

 

[Naps...just Naps]

OK guys, I give you the answer before turkey day in the US...

Apparently the 2 following units in Napoléon's army never got defeated in combat. Both are Guard cavalry units:

1. Polish Lancers

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1. Horse Grenadiers (nicknamed The Giants or The Gods) > BTW would be a nice addition to any Nap collection (hint, hint).

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But I thought both units were at Waterloo and both were involved in the battle at some stage if not both involved in the mass cavalry charge of the allied squares?
I've read a few books on the French view of Waterloo but even the most biased views still admit Waterloo was a defeat for the French.^&grin
Regards
Paul

 

[Grognard]

But I thought both units were at Waterloo and both were involved in the battle at some stage if not both involved in the mass cavalry charge of the allied squares?
I've read a few books on the French view of Waterloo but even the most biased views still admit Waterloo was a defeat for the French.^&grin
Regards
Paul

You can overall lose a battle but still have units undefeated through their engagement within that very battle. For example Grouchy's corp finished that battle with little engagement and pretty much intact. Also the French army didn't surrender at Waterloo but retreated...:wink2:

 

[Naps...just Naps]

You can overall lose a battle but still have units undefeated through their engagement within that very battle. For example Grouchy's corp finished that battle with little engagement and pretty much intact. Also the French army didn't surrender at Waterloo but retreated...:wink2:

Well that's all a matter of opinion I suppose.
It all depends if you are pro Allies or pro Napoleon's French and it depends what you call a defeat.

If a unit is part of a defeated army it should be regarded as defeated along with the other units within that army.
All the cavalry units failed to break the allies squares at Waterloo and got pretty well cut-up in the process.
I don't know why Napoleon spent his remaining years on a rock in the middle of the Atlantic if his army wasn't defeated:wink2:

I think you'll find that Grouchy's corp never reached the actual battlefield at Waterloo.
They seem to have spent their time chasing the Prussian retreat and got caught up in their own battle in Wavre.
I believe his corp did eventually join up with the "retreating" french army well after the battle of Waterloo had finished.

Thought provoking question though.

Cheers
Paul

 

[Grognard]

Well that's all a matter of opinion I suppose.
It all depends if you are pro Allies or pro Napoleon's French and it depends what you call a defeat.

If a unit is part of a defeated army it should be regarded as defeated along with the other units within that army.
All the cavalry units failed to break the allies squares at Waterloo and got pretty well cut-up in the process.
I don't know why Napoleon spent his remaining years on a rock in the middle of the Atlantic if his army wasn't defeated:wink2:

I think you'll find that Grouchy's corp never reached the actual battlefield at Waterloo.
They seem to have spent their time chasing the Prussian retreat and got caught up in their own battle in Wavre.
I believe his corp did eventually join up with the "retreating" french army well after the battle of Waterloo had finished.

Thought provoking question though.

Cheers
Paul

Yes, everyone is entitled to his opinion on this matter. Sometimes even the best scoring team doesn't win the soccer world cup . That said I am just quoting a few websites and Osprey book here so it's not my opinion. Anyway no need to quibble over that one...