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After beginning to collect the wonderful John Jenkins Eighteenth Century collection,:cool: I was surfing the other day through Sierra Toy Soldier Company’s web site to see if any new additions had been posted. To my disappointment, none:( ; but yet as I began looking at the photographs of East of India’s Ancient Greek and Persian Army collections, I found my self obsessing over them. You know the feeling, “I’ve GOT to have them.” :eek:

But then a small sense of common sense stepped in and because I have not seen one in person and I was wondering if any forum members collect them and if they could provide some insight.
 
Wow Michael I had the same feeling and same question except it for the Samurai figures. My other question is if East of India is going to be at OTSN.
 
When are you there, also check out Somerset. His figures are fabulous.
 
There's a dealer here in Montréal who carries East of India and the Greek/Persians figures are stunning. Do not hesitate. BTW, the samurai figures are also real great. In fact, in my opinion, East of India produces the best 54mm figures and if my money wasn't all spend in K&C military milniatures, I would collect them.

Pierre.
 
Having handled and set up displays of most of the sets what would you like to know?
 
Are they glossy? I see some gloss on them and do they compare with K&C's detail.
 
Wow Michael I had the same feeling and same question except it for the Samurai figures. My other question is if East of India is going to be at OTSN.

Seems to me I saw a HUGE and fascinating display of the Samurai at last years show as well as some Greek Phalanx's.My mind reeled and I had to retreat before I obsessed.
They appeared semi matte finish to me.Great stuf.
I'm sure they'll be there for all to behold.

Fubarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
 
... But then a small sense of common sense stepped in and because I have not seen one in person and I was wondering if any forum members collect them and if they could provide some insight.
I have quite a few sets of East of India's samurai, Boxer Rebellion, and all of the Greeks released last year. The figures are 1/32 matt, with glossy scabbards and lacquered armor. They usually attend the Chicago Show (OTSN).:)
 
Dear Michael and All,

Thank you for all your great and encouraging comments. It sometimes gets pretty tough dealing here with the factories in China but just hearing a few comments like this suddenly makes my business all to more worthwhile! I would definately collect them as I am an avid collector of these East of India ranges myself!

Yes for sure we will be at the Chicago Show again this year. In fact we are frantically packing all the goodies up now. We will arrive on Wednesday and after a relaxing break at the bar that day (we need it after a 22 hour trip door to door) and should have our room set up by mid afternoon on the Thursday.

We will be bringing to display 10 sets of ancient Greeks, 12 sets of Persians and allies as well as a few of our more recent “Shogun Collection” and “Colonial Collection” sets which will all be displayed on the wonderful JG Miniatures scenery which seems to suit our figures so well.

I have just posted up some photos of the most recent Persians added to our range on Steven’s thread on the show so I won’t post them again here.

Thank you again all and please drop by our room anytime during the show and say hello.
Cynthia and I look forward to chatting with you next week.

Have a safe trip there.

All the best
Ken Clarke-Jervoise
The East of India Company.
 
Sorry me again.

Steven has basically answered the question. But just to confirm, our figures are basically Matt. However certain items; for example lacquered Japanese armour and other pieces of equipment are gloss and ancient brestplates, spear tips etc are semi gloss .. just like the real thing!

All the best
Ken Clarke-Jervoise
The East of India Company.
 
Ken
I also collect your figures, and say to all they are excellent.

Njja
 
Thank you very much Njja,

Will you be at the show next week? If so please drop by our room for some cold refreshments and a look at the our new items. 7 new sets have just arrived and we will be showing them at the show for the first time.

All the best
Ken Clarke-Jervoise
The East of India Company
 
Ken thank you for the invitation, but unfortunatly I will not be attending this

year. I do look forward to seeing you, perhaps next year.

Njja
 
EoI makes a fine product. I am very very excited about their new Ancients release. I think they set the standard for the figures in the lines they cover. You will get a much nicer figure from St. Pete but be ready to spend $$$. EoI gives you more figures for less $$ but does sacrifice some artistic detail.

Another wonderful thing about EoI is their boxes for their figures. I have some figures with pine (??) boxes. They definately win in that category.
 
My first arrival of the EoI ancients came in today and.............

WOW!!!! What a FANTASTIC group of figures. I really must believe that they have a new feature for toy soldiers. Unsure as to the size of the pikeman's pike, the company issued both long and medium sized pikes. They phalanx figures have small holes drilled into their hands so that the collectors can choose either one. I am a little mixed on the feature- one part of me says, go ahead and just issue them with either a medium or long spear and be done with it while the other part of me says, yeah, way to go and give something a try. The really nice thing about doing that is that the figures can ship without the long pikes in their hands and so you don't risk them getting damaged.

A solid "A" for effort and design. The shields are remarkable- the color schemes are just eye catching, the figures are on solid bases and a really neat feature with "tanning" or "weathering" the skins of the figures so they look like they have been out in the hot hot sun.

I believe these figures would go great with Conte figures. The nice ( or unfortutnate depending on point of view) thing about the EoI figs versus Conte is that Conte has more name recognition and that allows them to retire figures and play the secondary market. EoI doesn't really seem to have that following yet which allows the casual EoI collector like myself the ability to be patient and grab up their figures as the Defense budget allows. Some of these phalanx figures are a limited run of 500 but I think they will still be available for a couple more years just because of the name recognition issue.

I have been saying it since 2000- I think East of India is the sleeper company of our collectors industry (along with Frontline)- they do so many neat and interesting figures. I am going to gobble up these phalanx figures and just display them en masse around some of the nicer St. Pete Greeks.

A great great offering to be had. Way to go EoI!! You still have my vote as one of the premier toy soldier companies out there today.

CC
 
Thank you and Shame on you!!! :eek::eek:

First of all, for some reason, I couldn't locate the EoI website but now I can.

Secondly, WHAT A GOREGEOUS SHIP!!!! That is a tremendous display!!! Is that yours or a stock photo?? Anyway, you are going to make me spend even more on this set and less on other ones- Shame Shame Shame :)

Great Avatar by the way.
 
Oh how I would love to own that ship however it belongs to EoI unless they sold it. Its on thier home page. I visit thier site from time to time to see what they have in the works. They do some great figures don't they.

I've been concidering the Samurai figures for some time. A display of the Greek Phalanx with both short and long pikes would be pretty impressive.
 
Looking at that ship again though, I don't think it fits the traditional model of a greek ship- still though it looks really sweet!!!

You know, now that I have had a day to digest these greek figs, I don't think they are 54mm in scale. Does anyone else notice this?? It looks like 1:30th to me.
 
Hello all,

Firstly a hearty thank you Chris and Toricda for all your nice comments. Chris I hope you really enjoy the new additions to your collection and Toricda I hope you start collecting them soon!

Just to clarify and few points here and to answer some of your questions:

On the subject of pike lengths: We have issued two different pike lengths but this was not due to the fact we were unsure as to the length of these weapons at the time. This is one facet of the era which is clearly documented – for a change!

The initial offerings for our Ancient Collection was a Greek phalanx around the time of the battles of Marathon (BC 490) and Plataea (BC479). At that time, with the armour we had chosen for our first warriors, a short pike would have been more historically accurate. However having spoken to a large number of collectors a few have the opinion that "a phalanx cannot be a phalanx without those huge long pikes". So we had a dilemma; but not for long as we then decided that each set (ACG01 to ACG04 and ACG06 to ACG10) would contain both the long and short versions:. 3 figures 6 pikes. We hoped therefore everyone would be happy!

Chris, On the subject of availability: The limited sets ACG06 to ACG09 I firmly believe will not hold out stock wise for 2 years as you have suggested. They were released under a year ago and more than 350 of each set have already been sold. Maybe they will all be gone by this Christmas. I actually don’t like the idea of limited editions as I would much rather that collectors were able to buy for a year or two after the initial release of our sets. This satisfies both collectors with limited budgets, and also of course new comers to our ranges, and prevents them not having to pay outrageous prices on the secondary market for a product that is relatively new. The only reason these 4 sets were limited was due to the fact that once off the shelves we could launch another 4 sets of phalanx with yet more and varied shield designs. I can’t stock unlimited combinations of these figures for ever!

I still have many collectors each month who have just discovered our Samurai range and are desperately trying to track down some of our sets from the early 2000s, but alas these sets have long gone and will not be produced again.

On the subject of us being sleepy – I will ignore! Joking! Actually we are a very small company and also I run other businesses in Hong Kong the UK and in Spain as well. I am myself a collector and the reason why EOI got into the “toy soldier” market in the first place was to produce figures that I wanted in my collection but were not available in “bulk” at the time anywhere. To absorb these huge costs I of course had to sell into the market and due to an overwhelming response by lots of collectors like yourself I have managed to continue the business. The collection is growing and I try to make about 50 new figures a year. Sometimes we make more and sometimes less. We have 4 Cavalry and 17 infantry due to be released in the summer and the balance towards Christmas

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