3D Casting in 54mm: What is the deal with that? (1 Viewer)

CanesBart

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Say I have a master sculpt of a figure. And I want to make 3D copies. Obviously, I know nothing about the process, as you can tell.


I assume the cost is more than rubber mold, resin casting and a lot less than injection molding?

Where do I go from here?
 
Do you mean, you want to use 3D printing to create copies of your master figure? I don't know how much you might pay if you went through an commercial outfit like Shapeways, but I don't expect it's nearly as much as it would cost you to buy your own 3D printer and the materials.

If you eventually want to produce a lot of copies of many different masters that you create, then it might be worth it to buy your own printer and the materials, than to pay someone else.

As far as a comparison to casting in white metal or resin is concerned, again, it depends on how many different figures you plan on making, but at the very least, mold compounds and resin aren't too expensive. Here is Micro-Mark's catalog page for casting and molding supplies, for example:

https://www.micromark.com/hobby-supplies/casting-molding-supplies

You can probably find sources for these materials at lower prices, if you look around. Same goes for the resin, or for white metal. I bought about 70 pounds of linotype metal, maybe 25 years ago, and I still have about half of it left. I cut it with lead from old tire weights, fishing sinkers, etc, to lower the melting point and get a softer alloy, depending on the molds I'm using (I use a lower percentage of lead, when casting with metal molds).

There are outfits that will make rubber molds for you, too. I used to get molds made by RLJ Castings, who was last in Erie, PA. But I haven't seen him in years, since he stopped coming to the shows. It was worth it to me to pay him to make molds from masters I sent him, rather than to make my own molds.

I don't know if that answers your question. If you're talking about plastic, too, versus resin, then I have no idea. I only know about casting with metal, and with resin.

Hope that helps, though, prosit!
Brad
 
Thanks Baron. My idea is to produce some figures, in 54mm and 28mm, that I personally want, and sell enough of them to break even on cost at least.

I sculpted some prototype model car parts, for instance, that are in pretty high demand (saw a guy 3D print a few cars in 32mm (1:56) for war gaming that came out great, and I see no reason why my parts could not be 3D printed.

As for figures, I'd prefer the 3D printing variety of plastics, as opposed to resin (54mm figures for play sets and such), thus my interest in 3D.

Plus, Im no figure sculptor. (I am great at sculpting parts, and have even sculpted whole buildings wehich were then molded and casted in resin by a friend)

I understand 3D printing is done by making a computer prototype, NOT a sculpted green? Better, as I can never find a green stuff sculpter, and a 54mm sculpt would cost about......600 bucks to commission?


As a side note: In the early 80's, in college, my Godfather, Guido (sounds bad, but its not, was my dad's roomate at the U of Miami) set me and his son up with a summer lobster trapping and deep line fishing business in the keys. I came up with this GREAT idea: Plastic lobster traps! (the wooden ones were awfully costly in maintenance). In Law School, my mentor said we should do it. We came up with a prototype, but just getting a mold back then would cost about 200 grand! Investors said there was no evidence the traps would work, or that lobsterman would want to change their ways. So it was dropped (we went on to "Evil Empire Arms", where we bought bulk Soviet and ex Iron Curtain firearms like AKs, Makerovs, Simonovs, etc. and sold them in Arkansas. Great success) . So anyway, plastic, injection molded lobster traps are now the norm! They....they....they stole my idea! And it worked! :mad: So.....that means my figure producing idea.....must be good too?
 
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Hi CanesBart,

Plastic injection moulding used to depend on expensive steel moulds producing upwards of 100,000 copies cost $100,000s.

Nowadays, you can get aluminium moulds which are more affordable to go for a few thousand copies costing $10,000s.

Silicone rubber moulds are really affordable and can make a few hundred copies.

3-D printing is really for making limited copy numbers and the plastic has a funny greasy feel to it.

Rgds Victor
 
Hi CanesBart,

Plastic injection moulding used to depend on expensive steel moulds producing upwards of 100,000 copies cost $100,000s.

Nowadays, you can get aluminium moulds which are more affordable to go for a few thousand copies costing $10,000s.

Silicone rubber moulds are really affordable and can make a few hundred copies.

3-D printing is really for making limited copy numbers and the plastic has a funny greasy feel to it.

Rgds Victor

Thanks. Ive done some rubber molds, but mostly for simple objects (like British Zulu War helmets, casualty figures, etc) One piece molds. Dont know if I have the skills to make a 2 piece mold for a 54mm figure, and I have no figure sculpting skills :(

Maybe hiring a sculptor to make a green is the way to go, and finding a mold maker.

Or find someone who 3D prints. Amazing that I have no knowledge of the medium :(

And you are right, the Evil Dead 3D figure I got for the upcoming boardgame is kinda greasy.
 
Thanks. Ive done some rubber molds, but mostly for simple objects (like British Zulu War helmets, casualty figures, etc) One piece molds. Dont know if I have the skills to make a 2 piece mold for a 54mm figure, and I have no figure sculpting skills :(

Maybe hiring a sculptor to make a green is the way to go, and finding a mold maker.

Or find someone who 3D prints. Amazing that I have no knowledge of the medium :(

And you are right, the Evil Dead 3D figure I got for the upcoming boardgame is kinda greasy.

You might try: 3ders.org
You will find news and info on 3D printers and 3D printing.
BOBBYGMOORE
 
You might try: 3ders.org
You will find news and info on 3D printers and 3D printing.
BOBBYGMOORE


Thank you!

Wish I learned to figure sculpt. I mastered other similar arts (I can carve a T-34 turret from a block of plaster for a mold prototype) but have no clue as to figures. Maybe because when I tried, I used Squadron Green Putty, and it SUCKED for figs, it was too....viscositeous? Is that a word? And I gave up. Sculptors.....they are the Chosen Ones! If Kev and Sally ever attend my "Whiskey Tasting and poker Night", Hasslefree will be indebted to me and I shall rule the World!!!!
 

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