A Fokker DR1 I'd like to see... (1 Viewer)
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Great choice. Jasta Boelcke had many striking color schemes. The black and white horizontal stabilizer was a squadron ID. It was applied either way, ie. black on left, white on right or the reverse. Don't think there was any significance to which was used. -- AlThis on belongs to; Lt. Friedrich Kempf; (No. 213/17). The writing on the middle wing translates to roughly; "Do you know me still?"
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I'm excited that JJD is apparently going to do Lothar von Richthofen's tripe #454/17, as seen at the London show. It is very colorful and will make a great dio companion with MvR's all red tripe. I would like to see JJD make a tripe that was flown by Paul Baumer, a 43 victory ace of Jasta Boelcke. Specifically, the later version of #204/17. It has the white/black rear fuselage and horizontal stabilizer, with a black nose and black wing tips edged in red and white. Underside is factory light blue and a personel marking of a red-white-black stripe rings the fuselage behind the cockpit. The tripe had the interim wide, straight cross style with an added cross at the rear top of the fuselage/horizontal stabilizer. The majority of the wing tops and fuselage are done in the Fokker camo combo of gray-brown-green streaking. It is quite a colorful combo. -- Al
Just for the historical aspect, I'd wouldn't mind if JJD did the aircraft of the 3rd flying von Richthofen, Wolfram. He was cousin of Manfred and Lothar, was a Leutnant, joining his cousins at Jasta 11 on April 4, 1918, and eventually scoring 8 victories. This one will take research. Not sure what he flew as he was assigned to Jasta 11 close to Manfred's death and may not have seen action in the tripes. His first victory was scored in June, making it likely he was flying a Fokker D-7. Still, a figure, at least, to join his cousins, would be kind of neat. -- Al
Forgot to mention that Wolfram was part of the fight in which the Red Baron died. Wolfram was actually attacked by Wop May at one point, before May was attacked by the Red Baron in the action that lead to Manfred's death. May broke off his attack on Wolfram because of jammed guns. Manfred came to Wolframs aid, thus kicking off the fatal action. Wolfram was flying a tripe, #161/17, just like the rest of Jasta 11. -- Al
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Interesting that you mention Wolfram as I came across a book on him recently. In addition to his WWI service, he played a role in the Condor Legion and major role in WWII. Here is some information on his tripe from the artist Ivan Barryman:
I had a bit of a struggle to find information on Wolframs DR.1. Very little is recorded about his service in Jasta 11. It is known, of course, that all Jasta 11 aircraft possessed a red cowling, red wing struts and wheels covers. Many of the pilots had adopted their own colourful liveries within this dictate, however, making the identification of many of Wolframs peers quite simple. Popular opinion has it that Wolfram was new to the Jasta and that his DR.1, serial No 161/17, was most likely left in its factory finish, apart from the application of red in all the correct places. Even though he remained with Jasta 11 until the wars end, there is no evidence that his aircraft was ever personalised. For the record, all of Wolframs victories were scored between June and November 1918 and comprised two Spads, two Sopwith Camels, one Sopwith Dolphin, two SE5as and one DH.4.
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If I could pick one WWI plane for John to do, it would be Goring's white D.VII. It will be interesting to see if John sticks with the triplane or moves on to something else on the German side. With all the variations he could make plenty of triplanes. On the allied side, he will have to move around more to get variation.
The D-7 would be a great choice as would the Albatros. The RFC had rather mundane color schemes, with a few personal exceptions. You have to go to the French with their Nieuports and Spads to get colorful schemes and especially the multitude of very colorful and varied squadron and personal markings. The Nieuport 28 would be a great choice as an off-beat choice for the Americans. -- Al
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I think John will get around to all those. Wonder though if he has the heart to give the Gotha a try! That would be a beast. "Flyboys" almost ruined it for me, but would like to see that baby. Wonder what the dimensions are in 1/30?
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Love the Gotha, too. Don't know about dimensions but it would be way too big for me to display in my humble aboad. Would love to have it, even so. "Flyboys" almost ruined WW1 for me, altogether. Don't know why they bothered when a little more effort could have made a decent movie. I like the painting you posted of the Gotha. I believe that is Stan Stokes, who has done many fine aircraft paintings. -- Al
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The Gotha wingspan would be only 31 inches
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LOL. Only 31 inches. Well, I could turn the dining room table into a display area, if I get it in the divorce settlement.The Gotha wingspan would be only 31 inches
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LOL. Only 31 inches. Well, I could turn the dining room table into a display area, if I get it in the divorce settlement.
Save room for the Friedrichshafen G.III.
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I'm guessing Kapitanleutnant Heinrich Mathy's Zepp L-31 is going to be following right along and will need a little bit of room, also.
-- Al