A horse, a horse, my kingdom for a horse (1 Viewer)

[OldDragon]

Dear All

We have dismounted dragoons, hussars, curraisers, horse artillery, officers, etc etc ... but no unmounted horses. These would make wonderful additions for background pieces in our dioramas. A single cast may be varied with different body color & saddle sets for ... AWI, ACW, NAP, Alamo, Crusaders & all the pre WWII lines.

I was wondering if any member has asked Andy for a horse ... unmounted horses. What do you think ? Any support here ?

OldDragon

 

[Rob]

Good idea,yes i can picture some riderless horses walking near a square of British guards at Waterloo,sorry Ron!

Rob

 

[Louis Badolato]

If I remember correctly, weren't there some dismounted cavalry figures holding horses for "The West" series? I never collected that series, and Larry wrote that chapter of the book, so I could be mistaken. Maybe I am thinking about Frontline Civil War.

 

[OldDragon]

Walking, standing, grazing behind the guns .... even galloping, along with the rest of the calvary charging on the infantry

OldDragon

 

[Jim5615]

If I remember correctly, weren't there some dismounted cavalry figures holding horses for "The West" series? I never collected that series, and Larry wrote that chapter of the book, so I could be mistaken. Maybe I am thinking about Frontline Civil War.

Not sure about the West series, but Frontline has a dismounted Cavalry piece with two horses being held by a trooper. I wouldn't mind a riderless grey horse for the Scots Greys.

 

[jazzeum]

If I remember correctly, weren't there some dismounted cavalry figures holding horses for "The West" series? I never collected that series, and Larry wrote that chapter of the book, so I could be mistaken. Maybe I am thinking about Frontline Civil War.

Just one, all of the others were mounted.

 

[fishead19690]

Great idea, I would buy up a few of those!!! I need one to go with my cuirassier holding a saddle.
It would be nice to have a few dead ones also. and a couple of cuirassiers on foot in Action poses fighting after being dismounted or wounded or dead with their horse wandering around.I like it!

Some dead limber horses and a broken up limber would be cool also.

How about some pack mules also.

 

[sceic2]

Yes, Yes, Yes. I have said this in the past, I say it now, and I will say it in the future, we need dead horses, dead bloated horses. (maybe even body parts).

 

[fishead19690]

Yes, Yes, Yes. I have said this in the past, I say it now, and I will say it in the future, we need dead horses, dead bloated horses. (maybe even body parts).

Hey michael, What kind of body parts would you like to see??? arms, legs,rolling heads??? How about some loins, rump roast, t-bones??? I,ll get you one of those charts like the butcher has with the picture of the cow and all the cuts of meat to help you pick some prime body parts!!!

P.S. should the body parts be bloated also?

 

[sceic2]

Hey michael, What kind of body parts would you like to see??? arms, legs,rolling heads??? How about some loins, rump roast, t-bones??? I,ll get you one of those charts like the butcher has with the picture of the cow and all the cuts of meat to help you pick some prime body parts!!!

P.S. should the body parts be bloated also?

ALL OF THEM. AND YES, ALL BLOATED. What does everyone think the battlefield would look like anyway using swords and pikes, exploding shells, trampling horses; and the smell, yeah the smell. A new product, a spray can of "The smell of death." That would be much easier than trying to hide that dead rotten bird on the diorama to achieve that distinct odor.

As some have said, "keep it real"!!!

Disturbed, yes I am. But at, least I admit it.

 

[fishead19690]

Michael, as always I,d go for the do it yourself route. Now here a few of my ideas! First things first we need to take a trip to the butchers shop, and eye out what looks good and what would look to scale!!! 1/30 or 1/32??? We can grind some down to scale latter at home so don,t worry if its on the large size just make sure you get a good tender cut for easier chopping.

I think some nice ground hamber or some cheaper cuts of meat, check and see if hes got any sitting around for awhile it will be cheaper and he might cut you a better deal if you haggle a bit and you also get that smell of death going that your looking for and you won,t need your spray.

 

[Fubar]

ALL OF THEM. AND YES, ALL BLOATED. What does everyone think the battlefield would look like anyway using swords and pikes, exploding shells, trampling horses; and the smell, yeah the smell. A new product, a spray can of "The smell of death." That would be much easier than trying to hide that dead rotten bird on the diorama to achieve that distinct odor.

As some have said, "keep it real"!!!

Disturbed, yes I am. But at, least I admit it.

Whoa. Well,

Okay a few horses without riders would be good. Yes, I know the need for wounded animal, casualties of all kinds for dioramas. I must admit, I feel worse for the horses than the people. Doesnt make sense I guess but its true.
Can't recall who wrote it in their memoirs of Waterloo, but was deeply disturbedb by the sight of an animal that had both it's hind legs shot off and was sitting up eating the rye grass and was still there the next day.Poor brutes.

Dead smell in a can. Geez, it'd probably sell . Goth chicks probably.

fub

 

[sceic2]

Putting aside my distorted and truely distubing sense of humor, I do think that riderless horses and some kind of horse bodies would add realism to the diorama. It is a fact that horses did tend to make bigger targets than their riders and unfortunately they (the horses) did not have a say in how they would be ridden.

 

[fishead19690]

Putting aside my distorted and truely distubing sense of humor, I do think that riderless horses and some kind of horse bodies would add realism to the diorama. It is a fact that horses did tend to make bigger targets than their riders and unfortunately they (the horses) did not have a say in how they would be ridden.

Not only did the horses make a bigger target but, they were targeted by the troops. Shooting out the horses from under the riders caused the horses behind them to stumble and fall over the horse and rider. Thats why cavalry charges like the ones at waterloo were not at full gallup but at more of a trot. Even at the slower trot the troops behind the fallen horses would have a hard time getting around the fallen horses, more so if they were kicking about on the ground wounded, not to mention the fear it would cause to the other horses. So lets see some dead horses but, I,ll pass on the bloated ones. Sorry Michael!

 

[Kiwi]

Dear All

We have dismounted dragoons, hussars, curraisers, horse artillery, officers, etc etc ... but no unmounted horses. These would make wonderful additions for background pieces in our dioramas. A single cast may be varied with different body color & saddle sets for ... AWI, ACW, NAP, Alamo, Crusaders & all the pre WWII lines.

I was wondering if any member has asked Andy for a horse ... unmounted horses. What do you think ? Any support here ?

OldDragon

Here here, OldDragon!

An excellent suggestion. Unmounted saddled/unsaddled horses at the standstill would greatly enhance my Napoleonic collection as would dead or wounded horses. Great idea!

Kiwi

 

[OldDragon]

Dear All

We have dismounted dragoons, hussars, curraisers, horse artillery, officers, etc etc ... but no unmounted horses. These would make wonderful additions for background pieces in our dioramas. A single cast may be varied with different body color & saddle sets for ... AWI, ACW, NAP, Alamo, Crusaders & all the pre WWII lines.

I was wondering if any member has asked Andy for a horse ... unmounted horses. What do you think ? Any support here ?

OldDragon

This is a request that I am bumping up from 2007 ...

The four riderless horses just released for the Lighthorse series are real superb looking, and I am badly hoping for similar for the many dismounted NAP cavalry troopers and gunners that K&C has released.

Here's hoping that Andy will soon favour NAP collectors with a similar treat.

Bests
OD

 

[Obee]

I think that whats been done with the Lighthorse is great, and could be dome with more cavalry BUT its all about economics unfortunately.

With the Lighthorse there have been a lot of charging cavalry of the same unit produced, more than any other K&C series, 18 out of 41 figures so making some riderless horses (4) makes sense.

These mounts could also be used as any British Cavalry for a wide range of periods from 1880's up to after WW1, making them more versitile and so economical.

In the Napoleonic ranges, you only get a few charging troopers, and so to make un unridden horse, we'd be lucky to only get one.

For example Curassiers 11, Dragoons 8, Scots Greys 9, Red Lancers 9, but many of these poses are marching, like the other series of Casseurs a Cheval, Grenadiers a Cheval.

Also with the variety of different saddlecloths and saddlery it would require a very limited release of horses.

I'd like to see some 'at rest' cavalry, of walking troopers with mounts, like these experimental figures by K&C




John

 

[TomB]

Dear All

We have dismounted dragoons, hussars, curraisers, horse artillery, officers, etc etc ... but no unmounted horses. These would make wonderful additions for background pieces in our dioramas. A single cast may be varied with different body color & saddle sets for ... AWI, ACW, NAP, Alamo, Crusaders & all the pre WWII lines.

I was wondering if any member has asked Andy for a horse ... unmounted horses. What do you think ? Any support here ?

OldDragon

Is this what you mean ? seperate horses's to fit into dio....done this several years ago....gave it away to an re-enactment Troop...cheers TomB

 

[waynepoo]

The Light horse horses......

 

[OldDragon]

I think that whats been done with the Lighthorse is great ..... ......

Also with the variety of different saddlecloths and saddlery it would require a very limited release of horses.

I'd like to see some 'at rest' cavalry, of walking troopers with mounts, like these experimental figures by K&C

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John

Perhaps K&C will indulge their NAP collectors and re-issue both the pictured horses as single unmounted pieces. That should involve the minimum of a re-sculpt

Would be nice.

Bests
OD