A Message From Andy Neilson Regarding the LAH Series (1 Viewer)

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Andy has asked me to post the following.

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Subject: “About the LAH”

Dear Forum,

I have thought long and hard about the recent posts on the L.A.H. and here is my response.

We produce L.A.H. for the pure and simple reason that it is part of history and we are a company that designs and produces historical military miniatures.

That said, there are other more complex reasons. The Second World War was one of the pivotal events of the Twentieth, or indeed any other century, in the history of mankind. It’s effects and ramifications are still felt to this day.

Being brought up in the nineteen fifties I had a very “comic book” view of “The War” and the reasons for it. “The Germans were bad… The British were good… and the Americans were late as usual!”

Of course as I grew older and learnt more I realized how distorted and naïve my original understanding was.

One particular question kept returning to haunt me, “How did a desperate bunch of gangsters led by an anti-social misfit (with an unfortunate resemblance to Charlie Chaplin) take over one of the most sophisticated and civilized countries in the World?”

Of course I knew “why” he did it but it was the “how” that continues to fascinate me even to this day.

I know I’m not alone in this interest because a continuing steady stream of books, documentaries, films are constantly emerging to cover the relatively short 12 year span of “The Thousand Year Reich”.

A very small part of this “steady stream” is our L.A.H. series. The Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler was not just a band of mindless things – they were originally recruited from all stratas of German society and forged into an elite praetorian guard. Ultimately they became the premier Waffen SS division and left their bleached bones on the battlefields of Normandy, Kursk, The Ardennes and a thousand other nameless locations.

Like all military elites they “looked the part” – none can deny their pre war turnout was both impressive and sinister in almost equal parts.

Their personal tragedy is that they fought and died for a murderous regime and an immoral cause that was cruel, despotic and evil in the extreme. But should we ignore them?

History is replete with less palatable truths that most of us prefer to turn a blind eye to… Roman Legions routinely executed prisoners…Vikings butchered, raped and pillaged their way along the coastlines of Europe…Crusaders frequently massacred Muslims, Jews and other Christians.

In more modern days the British civilized Africa with a bible in one hand and the Martini Henry *455 in the other.

And let’s not forget that after America captured The Philippines from Spain they killed at least 250,000 Filipinos (men, women and children) putting down an independence movement.

So, what I’m trying to say is that to be interested in a particular series or part of history does not make one a “fellow traveler” of that same point of view.

Even in these “politically correct” times ignorance of even basic modern history is tragically all too common.

Ask any high school (even college) student these days about World War Two – its causes, events and effects and you will be dazzled by their ignorance.

We need constant reminders, large and small, of just what big parades…black uniforms…and simple solutions to complex problems can lead to.

Disaster…destruction…and, sometimes, death camps.

Finally, whilst I fully respect anyone’s wish not to collect any series that may offend them. I also believe that others may choose to collect that very same series for a wide variety of very respectable historical reasons

That’s freedom… that’s what our parents and grandparents fought for and …thank God they won!


Sincerely,

Andy C. Neilson

P.S. Re the questions about Heydrich and Rohm I will answer these as soon as I get into the office.
 

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If this isn't a bad time to ask, any further hints on the upcoming October LAH releases?
 
To pause for a while to think, to speak out freely, precious things. Thanks Andy for a terrific post.

Best regards,
Paulo
 
Thanks Andy for the post...I think I see all points of view on this subject and as I've stated in the past. if you like it...collect it. One point as I read the posts on the LAH series is always around...."it was a time in history" "They are historical significance" etc etc. I agree but then why do we only have a series that shows them in all of the pomp and circumstance of polished uniforms, bands, parades etc etc? If you think it is "historical" to show them at their best...is it not historical to show them at their worst as well? Should there not be a set of a SS soldier in his polished uniform putting a Lugar to the back of the head of a "prisoner" dressed in stripes with a yellow star? Or maybe a diorama of a blast furnace with two SS guards throwing bodies into it? Is that not a part of history....or just a part that we as collectors would not want to show in our homes?

This is why I think the dead and dying sets are so important. It's great to see the beautiful soldiers in their action poses....but it is also important to show the other side of that coin....the death and despair that war brings. This is my main concern with the LAH series...it shows them at their best.

Am I the only one that got mad when reading the post from that NY Dealer that had those idiots in his shop wanting to buy them, not for histories sake, but for the fact that they wanted to show them with pride, like I show the D-Day sets in my house! I tip my hat to you sir for doing the right thing and not selling to them!
 
Excellent post. Thank you for that clarification. I think it very well sums up most of our feeling on this topic.

Do you mind if I post that on my site, or at least parts of it?
 

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Brian,

You are absolutely right about showing them at their worst - it would be far more appropriate. The Nazis are in my opinion the absolutely worst people who soiled this planet in the 20th Century, and I also laud Gideon for refusing to sell to those neo-nazi scum. And I don't make any excuses or false denials about all the horrible things that this country did to the Native Americans (I don't collect the West series partially for this reason) and the Phillipines. Nor should the British forget the laundry lists of abuses they perpetrated during their period of Empire. But when it comes to pure, unadulterated, inexcusable evil the Nazi's take the cake. So never forget them. Ever. Remember them with the same level of hate and distaste that they reserved for all non-nazis, the people they viewed as "sub-human", but more importantly, remember the brave Americans, Russians, Brits, Scots, French, Canadians, Poles, Finns, Norwiegians, Dutch, Belgians and others who stood up to them and stopped them from destroying civilization. Thats why I collect toy soldiers, to honor the people whose sacrifices gave me my life, my freedom, and my world. I don't need to tell you that those black shirted, black hearted scum will never be displayed in my home.
 

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Dear Louis,



Whilst I sympathize with your views about the “black-hearted scum” I do feel you are being a wee bit contrary by tolerating the Waffen SS.

Although towards the end of the war there were many non-Nazis conscripted into the Waffen SS by far the majority of SS men were “dyed in the wool” Nazis and fought to the end accordingly.

Throughout the war the Waffen SS Divisions committed many “warcrimes” – they murdered over a 100 British Tommies of the Norfolk Regiment in the retreat to Dunkirk in 1940…

In Russia their “crimes” were too numerous to mention…Normandy *44 saw “Das Reich” murder all 600 inhabitants of Oradour Sur Glare… “ Hitlerjugend” killed a whole bunch of Canadians. Later of couse there was the “Malmedy Massacre” of GI’s.

Now, as we both know, “warcrimes” are committed by all sides – I remember many years ago talking to a friend of my Dad who served in North Africa with the Monty’s 8th Army. One day, not long after the Battle of El Alamein his platoon captured 6 Afrika Korps soldiers. When my Dad’s friend asked his sergeant “what to do with them?” he was told to take them behind a nearby building and “get rid of them!” He and two other “Tommies” escorted them behind the building and told the Germans to “run for it.” As soon as they started to run away the 3 opened fire and gunned them down.

“Shot while trying to escape” was the official explanation.

War really is ****!

However as an ex soldier myself and as a toy soldier designer and maker it is sometimes hard to make simple black and white judgements.

Anyway that’s my tu’ppence worth!

Best personal wishes…and as usual, happy collecting.



Aye Yours,

Andy
 
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Regardless of the atrocities committed by the various Waffen SS units I feel that there is still a valid distinction to be made between those pre-War cheerleaders for the near-****ation of civilisation and those who were caught up in the wartime consequences.

If you were born in 1928 you would've been 5 years of age by the time AH came to power and would've been 17 by the time came to die in the fall of Berlin. For the vast bulk of mid-to late- war teenage combatants their whole conscious existence was under Nazi authoritarian governance and their participation in wartime activity, from anti-aircraft crew between school classes to aged-out Hitler Youth in the Hitler Jugend, took place in the context of their understanding or awareness being nowhere remotely near the moral culpability of those that had instigated the Nazi regime.

It's a point that shouldn't be underestimated and why I would have no difficulty with collecting a wartime set over a pre-War parade ground set any day. (In fact the RA12 set, from the manner in which the officer is loading the revolver, does imply that an execution is about to take place). I'd like to see more interesting wartime sets than pre-War but doubtless this debate will continue for quite a while to come.
 

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Andy,

There is no question that atrocities were committed on both sides, and on all sides, in every war. Its the nature of war. When you see a half a dozen of your closest buddies get their brains splattered all over you, and then the guys who shot them put their hands up and surrender, their will always be a terrible but perhaps understandable desire to forget the niceties and exact some retribution. You as a soldier know this far better than I. On the other hand, true combat soldiers have a tendency to view rear eschellon soldiers, especially body guards in parade units who never hear a shot fired in anger as "chicken sh*t" (a World War II term still in familiar use today). If, like me, you want to honor and display the brave allied soldiers who fought the Nazis, you need to display Wermacht and Waffen SS soldies, fanatical or not, to show the incredibly tough opposition our fathers, grandfathers and uncles faced. The parade ground Nazis are no more necessary for my purposes than a set of the United States Army Band. Again, I don't hold it against you for producing these sets, and I don't hold it against any collector, like my good friends Doug Stork or Doug Luna, who display these sets for the right reasons, the reasons you produce them, because they are a part of history. I just don't want them in my home. I respect this rationale, and have never once encouraged you to stop producing them. Anyway, we can talk as much history as we want in Boston. As always, warmest regards, Louis
 
But Lou, if it's rare eough you will snap it up anyways? Even if you still don't intend to display it you still "have it". Sorry to play devils advocate here but there are some exceptions when it comes to collecting a soldier versus displaying it.
 
Gideon,

You know that's not true. I own no LAH or Nazi leader figures at all. Anyway, we discussed this fully last night at the mini-symposium.
 
My mistake, yes. I posted that before we met on Friday night. You have that podium set and I mistakenly assumed that you had the older series figures that went to it.
 

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