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Andanna

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In the First Legion thread, a discussion on the figures of Aeroart has started. In order not to hijack that thread, I have opened this one as a forum to exchange views and pictures of the Aeroart figures.

I like Aeroart and I believe Thor Johnson's accomplishments are unique. But I am glad that other manufacturers have started to sculpt and paint figures that can get very close to Aeroart's qauality, but at a lower price.

Teutonic Bannerman overlooking Krak de Chevalier (1280)

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That is a nice figure.......the detail on the pants and flag are unreal.

I'm curious........what does that figure retail for?
 
The "Russian/Aeroart" figures ard beautiful But I think they are a little too fancy,a little too clean to represent actual realism.IMO only.
Mark
 
I have over 100 Aeroart figures in my collection love everyone of them. The problem is because of the economy they seem to be not producing anything new. I am not intrested in buying the same pose repainted ten different ways. By new I mean new mold and sculpt ie new figure, I am sure our troubled times have caused this. But I am looking for a new outlet of collecting for the time being. And just trying to figure out what it will be, that being said Aeroart is still my favorite TS company hands down. (John Jenkins is a close second):D
 
In the First Legion thread, a discussion on the figures of Aeroart has started. In order not to hijack that thread, I have opened this one as a forum to exchange views and pictures of the Aeroart figures.

I like Aeroart and I believe Thor Johnson's accomplishments are unique. But I am glad that other manufacturers have started to sculpt and paint figures that can get very close to Aeroart's qauality, but at a lower price.

Teutonic Bannerman overlooking Krak de Chevalier (1280)

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I agree Thor has done a great job of finding a sweet spot between price and painting level.

Great looking figure!
 
The "Russian/Aeroart" figures ard beautiful But I think they are a little too fancy,a little too clean to represent actual realism.IMO only.
Mark

The term I had been looking for in vain was "fancy". I agree with you that they are way too fancy - trying too hard to showcase Russian artistry. I, for example, wish their Teutonic Knights were simpler, for example just displaying a plain black cross. Or at least limit the use of the more elaborated cross (like the one on the bannerman) to high ranking knights. But at Aeroart, most if not all Teutonic Knights have this elaborate cross.

Another example are the Cherusci warriors of the Varus-battle: gorgeous figures, but just too elaborate for my taste.

I think this is where a new manufacturer could come in ...
 
In the First Legion thread, a discussion on the figures of Aeroart has started. In order not to hijack that thread, I have opened this one as a forum to exchange views and pictures of the Aeroart figures.

I like Aeroart and I believe Thor Johnson's accomplishments are unique. But I am glad that other manufacturers have started to sculpt and paint figures that can get very close to Aeroart's qauality, but at a lower price.

Teutonic Bannerman overlooking Krak de Chevalier (1280)

IMG_2658PS.jpg

Nice photo. I see you picked up the Woodland Scenics buff ballast which works very well here and should also look nice with your Durbar.
Randy
 
But I am looking for a new outlet of collecting for the time being. And just trying to figure out what it will be, that being said Aeroart is still my favorite TS company hands down. (John Jenkins is a close second):D

First off, Andanna - great figure. I think St. Pete's quality has varied quite a bit of late and I think, while this figure is of course great relatively speaking, the quality has dropped a bit overall. (understand that when I say this, I'm only comparing Russian figures to each other, not to toy soldiers! On the Louis B scale the painting on this would be a 12 out of 10 ;))

Next, Apachejol...hmm...you are a collector of Aeroart, which means you like high quality painting and sculpting. You buy John Jenkins, which means you're not above "Toy soldiers". You are looking for a new outlet to satisfy your urges, preferably with a company that releases a lot of new sculpts. Personally, I'm stumped.... :D:D:D
 
First off, Andanna - great figure. I think St. Pete's quality has varied quite a bit of late and I think, while this figure is of course great relatively speaking, the quality has dropped a bit overall. (understand that when I say this, I'm only comparing Russian figures to each other, not to toy soldiers! On the Louis B scale the painting on this would be a 12 out of 10 ;))

Next, Apachejol...hmm...you are a collector of Aeroart, which means you like high quality painting and sculpting. You buy John Jenkins, which means you're not above "Toy soldiers". You are looking for a new outlet to satisfy your urges, preferably with a company that releases a lot of new sculpts. Personally, I'm stumped.... :D:D:D

Hey...... I am a collector I am never satisfied! Now make some Mongols,Crusader or FIW and you will have a new customer!:D:D:D
 
Someone showed a mounted Vlad with a banner,a beautiful figure but way too elaborate to put in a battle dio.That's what's great about FL, great painting but can look like they have been in battle.
Mark
 
I have always liked Aeroarts/St Petersburg figures but I have been equally skeptical of just how over the top they are.

Seriously, the cloth patterns and other added details just were not practical to wear in combat or on campaign. Who would wear tapestry cloth while doing battle with Saracens? Really.

I remember an Incan or Mayan figure which lacked any understanding of the Meso American physical traits and wound up looking like Parick Stewart in an Incan warriors outfit.

What it boils down to is if you really are into how the materials were worn and used and that overall accuracy then these would not be the figure for you. The embilshment is what makes these figures - not neccessarily the historic accuracy.

All that said, I do respect the ability and the sculpt on many - I have a few in my personal collection.

As for Thor and his wife specifically, I am really happy to see some good and healthy competition to keep them on their toes.
 
I enjoy collecting Aeroart figures. I collect Spartans and Romans from their lines. I have always said that the 300 Stand at Thermopylae is one diorama that can be done with St. Pete and wouldn't be too prohibitively costly for the simple fact that you wouldn't need to shell out $375- $500+ for cavalry figures.

I certainly agree that the paint quality with St. Pete is over the top but I think that is what their customers are looking for- I know I am (though the figures costing $150 and over is getting harder to justify). I think it sort of "romanticizes" the periods of antiquity.
 
I also collect Russian painted figures from several different studios. I collect what ever eras catch my eye. Some I buy directly from the distributor sites, but I buy most of them at shows. When I am spending that kind of money I like to see the figures up close. One of the main reason I attend shows is to track down these figures. I have been collecting for about 12 years now and have never seen another figure line that can come close to the painting of the Russian artists. Yes some are painted to the extreme, but in my opinion they are like small works of art.
 
Yo Troopers, just had a look at their site, not much to see which was disappointing, I wanted to compare their 90mm of today against the great Chas stadden 90mm of yesteryear. Its a very interesting site was particularly interested in how they do their photo's, which was very informative. Anyway did email Tor to ask if he thought if his models had surpassed the Chas Stadden models with more modern technology available today. If he does answer will let you know his thoughts on the subject.
Bernard.
 
Yo Troopers, just had a look at their site, not much to see which was disappointing, I wanted to compare their 90mm of today against the great Chas stadden 90mm of yesteryear. Its a very interesting site was particularly interested in how they do their photo's, which was very informative. Anyway did email Tor to ask if he thought if his models had surpassed the Chas Stadden models with more modern technology available today. If he does answer will let you know his thoughts on the subject.
Bernard.

Yo Troopers, had a nice & honest reply to my question from Nikki & Tor Johnson as follows, also posted the photo's they sent of their 90mm. The only point I would argue on is the faces. I dont think anyone has matched the facial skills of Chas Stadden thats MHO.
Bernard.


Our few remaining 90mm figures are not pictured on our web site. I’ve attached sample photos, but not the exact pieces in stock today. You may recall from our discussion that it is rare to have exact duplication of each 90mm figure. If you have interest in purchasing, we can set a time for you to come to our annex facility where the miniature soldier figures are housed. Just let me know in email what weekday or mid-day Saturday you would like to come to the annex.



You asked an interesting question: Who do I think has produced better 90mm figures, Stadden or The St. Petersburg Collection. (Note that The St. Petersburg Collection is not an organization or company in Russia. It is a development by my company AeroArt International).



I certainly share your enthusiasm for the wonderful figures crafter by Charles Stadden, especially his larger scale items, which were probably his best. Stadden’s fame rests, I believe, on his knowledge and presentation of regimental uniforms and the fact that his pieces are now semi-antiques and are closely identified with a time period when Stadden was making perhaps the best soldiers then available.



However, a major change occurred with the collapse of the Soviet Union and the arrival of miniatures made in Russia. These figures would affect the entire soldier-making industry. The quality of Russian imports, the sculpting and painting, induced a Renaissance in the toy soldier business. Every soldier-maker had to improve quality to meet these super newcomers.



Figures in The St. Petersburg Collection were the equal of, at minimum, the best kit figures – although painted. Figures were now available to collectors who had previously been the purview of the few collectors who could afford tailor-made, connoisseur figures.



Back to your question of our 90mm figures vs Stadden, ours are clearly better from an artistic standpoint. Painting standards and techniques were not as highly advanced when Stadden’s were at their peak. Additionally, our figures have unique and real faces vs adequate but mannequin-like features. Further, each of the small number of 90mm figures we produced were originally produced as one-of-a-kind figures for competition at international locations such as: Paris, Valley Forge, Chicago, Washington or the international Expo. When we elected to make some of these special 90mms available to collectors, it was never an simple process. Being competition figures, they were not always easy to produce in multiples. Many molds were necessary for the extensive details, and assembly was often quite complex. Only the very best painters were awarded these assignments. Finally, very few pieces have been produced; many of our 90s were produced in single digit quantities.



In summary, yes, I believe our 90mm figures are better; however, if my interests in collecting were focused more on military units of 19th and 20th centuries, I would be looking for Stadden’s.



Hope this is helpful to your understanding.



Regards,

Nikki



Thor & Nikki Johnson

AeroArt International

"The St. Petersburg Collection"

www.aeroartinc.com

Ph: 703-406-4376

FAX: 703-406-4377


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