anyone notice the insanity going on right now? (1 Viewer)

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over at Old Toy Soldier Auctions.....I have some suscipicions.....?

Grant
 
I was just about to start a thread. I collect the K & C glossy and was hoping to pick up one of the items. Yeah, right.

There was a Seaforth Khaki Color Guard set that went four about $1,600. Then a Seaforth and two mules, around $600. There was a mounted rider Khaki, around $350 or so. That shouldn't cost more than $150. Then there were several Seaforths, with some you don't see every day. Based on the auctions I had just seen I assumed $1,200 or so. When I left, it was around $2,200! That is the amount (and then some) you should pay for a big presentation box.

I just don't get it. Unless these are investors the prices are just outlandish, completely nuts.
 
I do not want to start a war but am making a statement....what if a manufacturer or even a well healed investor bought up all of these things at any price...to drive up the value of their product/investment in the future....and to ease the /coiniciding with- the price increase that is coming....

An interesting and complicated business model I am sure but cheaper than advertising....and we arre talking about 1000+% markups on on some if this stuff from "fair market value".

wouldn't be unheard of- the US is printing money against gold that doesn't exist.....
 
hsm said:
I do not want to start a war but am making a statement....what if a manufacturer or even a well healed investor bought up all of these things at any price...to drive up the value of their product/investment in the future....and to ease the /coiniciding with- the price increase that is coming....

An interesting and complicated business model I am sure but cheaper than advertising....and we arre talking about 1000+% markups on on some if this stuff from "fair market value".

wouldn't be unheard of- the US is printing money against gold that doesn't exist.....
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I think it is a case of "I have to have syndrom". It is easy to justify if you consider going to shows and paying for hotels, plane tickets, meals, etc.
and not getting the items you want. If you see something you want, you have to calculated how much time and energy you are going to waste trying to get that missing item. I know, I've been there.
 
hsm said:
I do not want to start a war but am making a statement....what if a manufacturer or even a well healed investor bought up all of these things at any price...to drive up the value of their product/investment in the future....and to ease the /coiniciding with- the price increase that is coming....

An interesting and complicated business model I am sure but cheaper than advertising....and we arre talking about 1000+% markups on on some if this stuff from "fair market value".

wouldn't be unheard of- the US is printing money against gold that doesn't exist.....
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Seems an extreme way of trying to increase your collections value.
 
jazzeum said:
I was just about to start a thread. I collect the K & C glossy and was hoping to pick up one of the items. Yeah, right.

There was a Seaforth Khaki Color Guard set that went four about $1,600. Then a Seaforth and two mules, around $600. There was a mounted rider Khaki, around $350 or so. That shouldn't cost more than $150. Then there were several Seaforths, with some you don't see every day. Based on the auctions I had just seen I assumed $1,200 or so. When I left, it was around $2,200! That is the amount (and then some) you should pay for a big presentation box.

I just don't get it. Unless these are investors the prices are just outlandish, completely nuts.
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Consider that there is a 21% buyers premium and addition shipping cost, it really adds to your cost of ownership. Unfortunately, when you say it should cost X dollars, If I want the item, where can I buy it? I was very lucky and bought some glossies earlier this year, but it has been very difficult to fill in gaps without the help of fellow collectors.
 
It is very true that it's very hard to find glossies. However, with the help of friends (for me, people like Louis and Lawrence) and eBay and just plain being lucky (as at shows), you can build up a decent collection. Now, if you want to do it fast, these live auctions might be a way to go even though this one didn't have that much.
 
jazzeum said:
It is very true that it's very hard to find glossies. However, with the help of friends (for me, people like Louis and Lawrence) and eBay and just plain being lucky (as at shows), you can build up a decent collection. Now, if you want to do it fast, these live auctions might be a way to go even though this one didn't have that much.
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Boxes I hear are usually another story:rolleyes: I love boxes!
 
If they're speculators, I can see no immediate return at these prices unless they have buyers already or are willing to sit on them for awhile.
 
jazzeum said:
If they're speculators, I can see no immediate return at these prices unless they have buyers already or are willing to sit on them for awhile.
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I was being sarcastic...It's not like I was in the closet about it...I said long ago I will pay highway robbery prices for glossy's in the box...some have rewarded themselves nicely from me and had their ears open...others I assume are likely not interested in selling. But when and if your ever ready to part with your boxed glossy's for equivilant prices as todays auctions feel free to send me a pm with what you have...my goal hopefully as time moves forward is to let everyone on this forum and elsewhere know that selling to me can equal a killing in profits for you.

I'm big on boxed items and even bigger on glossy's. Again please no need to make this a money issue other than me willing to hand it out for the goods:D
 
jazzeum said:
If they're speculators, I can see no immediate return at these prices unless they have buyers already or are willing to sit on them for awhile.
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I agree probably not Dealers as they drop out when the price goes above half what they could sell it for.
 
ecuriel said:
Better deals today.
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Well I was hoping to purchase the Wm. Hocker "Queens own set" for about $2000...sadly it sold for $3000...sure was a nice set! Nevertheless I got the DD02 "Postcard" figure and that made me happy!

Oddly I won RA1 set and watched it end and rotate to the next screen..."the auction did not re-open" and yet it is not in my "won box"? Hmmm?
 
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