Are "RaId on St Francis" range State MilItia figures ok for AWI? (1 Viewer)

[egonzinc]

How different, or similar, would state militia uniforms and equipment be from the FIW period to the AWI period, approximately 15-25 years later?

TIA

 

[theBaron]

No. The uniform changes are noticeable, particularly in the cut of the coats. In the middle of the 18th century, British army coats were roomier, more voluminous. Waistcoats were also longer in the hem. The cut became tighter towards the end of the Seven Years War, and the 1768 Cloathing Warrant made formal changes like that, along with other developments that were underway, like adopting bearskins for grenadier caps in place of the previous cloth caps. We provincials, later, Continentals, were also influenced by these changes in military fashion.

Also, the colors are different, both in the color of the coats and the facings.

About the only thing you might be able to do is to use a provincial as a militiaman and explain it as an old veteran of the previous war. George Washington, for example, appeared at the Continental Congress in his Virginia provincials, when he was campaigning somewhat discreetly for the role of C-in-C of the army assembled at Boston.

Hope that helps, prost!
Brad

 

[egonzinc]

Thanks for the information.
Love those figures and wanted to see if they could do double duty.

I imagine the same applies to the Royal American figures of the FIW ranges?
Or could they "double up" as British troops in the AWI time period?

 

[Brother Jonathan]

No. The uniform changes are noticeable, particularly in the cut of the coats. In the middle of the 18th century, British army coats were roomier, more voluminous. Waistcoats were also longer in the hem. The cut became tighter towards the end of the Seven Years War, and the 1768 Cloathing Warrant made formal changes like that, along with other developments that were underway, like adopting bearskins for grenadier caps in place of the previous cloth caps. We provincials, later, Continentals, were also influenced by these changes in military fashion.

Also, the colors are different, both in the color of the coats and the facings.

About the only thing you might be able to do is to use a provincial as a militiaman and explain it as an old veteran of the previous war. George Washington, for example, appeared at the Continental Congress in his Virginia provincials, when he was campaigning somewhat discreetly for the role of C-in-C of the army assembled at Boston.

Hope that helps, prost!
Brad

By time of the 2nd Continental Congress, hadn’t Washington already adopted his blue-and-buff uniform?

 

[theBaron]

By time of the 2nd Continental Congress, hadn’t Washington already adopted his blue-and-buff uniform?

I've read various accounts, that give conflicting descriptions. Some say he wore a red coat; others his Virginia provincials, which included a blue coat with red facings; still others the blue with buff. I think one of the sources was Adams, and another was Franklin.

Prost!
Brad

 

[theBaron]

Thanks for the information.
Love those figures and wanted to see if they could do double duty.

I imagine the same applies to the Royal American figures of the FIW ranges?
Or could they "double up" as British troops in the AWI time period?

Unfortunately, the same thing regarding the style of the uniform applies to the Royal Americans, so they wouldn't quite look right as line infantry in 1775. Their breeches and waistcoats would have been white, and full gaiters would have been replaced with the shorter spatterdashes. But they'd fit in better than the provincials would.

Prost!
Brad

 

[egonzinc]

Thanks again.
I imagine that eventually we will get some JJD AWI redcoats.
In the Saratoga range there still do not show any in the previews.