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For those of us who are into 17th-19th artillery. Received this in an e-mail from a friend.

In the heyday of sailing ships, all war ships and many freighters carried iron cannons. Those cannons fired round iron cannon balls. It was necessary to keep a good supply near the cannon. However, how to prevent them from rolling about the deck? The best storage method devised was a square-based pyramid with one ball on top, resting on four resting on nine, which rested on sixteen. Thus, a supply of 30 cannon balls could be stacked in a small area right next to the cannon. There was only one problem....how to prevent the bottom layer from sliding or rolling from under the others. The solution was a metal plate called a 'Monkey' with 16 round indentations. However, if this plate were made of iron, the iron balls would quickly rust to it. The solution to the rusting problem was to make 'Brass Monkeys.' Few landlubbers realize that brass contracts much more and much faster than iron when chilled.. Consequently, when the temperature dropped too far, the brass indentations would shrink so much that the iron cannonballs would come right off the monkey; Thus, it was quite literally, 'Cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey.' (All this time, you thought that was an improper expression, didn't you.)�
 
Love your story friend!!...Wether it is true or not, I like it. Sounds very feasable and I thought that I had a good knowledge of sayings and thier origin...I lived the first 30 years of my life in England and never heard this before...Is this maybe from American origin??.

Steve
 
I think it is a British saying, to describe the weather however shortened to it's brass monkeys out there today :)
 
Once again, I have learned something. Thank you for posting this bit of info.:smile2: -- Al
 
For those of us who are into 17th-19th artillery. Received this in an e-mail from a friend.

In the heyday of sailing ships, all war ships and many freighters carried iron cannons. Those cannons fired round iron cannon balls. It was necessary to keep a good supply near the cannon. However, how to prevent them from rolling about the deck? The best storage method devised was a square-based pyramid with one ball on top, resting on four resting on nine, which rested on sixteen. Thus, a supply of 30 cannon balls could be stacked in a small area right next to the cannon. There was only one problem....how to prevent the bottom layer from sliding or rolling from under the others. The solution was a metal plate called a 'Monkey' with 16 round indentations. However, if this plate were made of iron, the iron balls would quickly rust to it. The solution to the rusting problem was to make 'Brass Monkeys.' Few landlubbers realize that brass contracts much more and much faster than iron when chilled.. Consequently, when the temperature dropped too far, the brass indentations would shrink so much that the iron cannonballs would come right off the monkey; Thus, it was quite literally, 'Cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey.' (All this time, you thought that was an improper expression, didn't you.)�

Good old "snopes".

http://www.snopes.com/language/stories/brass.asp

We do say "keep the Brass Monkies in tonight!" around here.
 
And here's one that someone made earlier..............
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Fair enough - only joking bach - look up Shot Garlands then^&grin jb
 
Love your story friend!!...Wether it is true or not, I like it. Sounds very feasable and I thought that I had a good knowledge of sayings and thier origin...I lived the first 30 years of my life in England and never heard this before...Is this maybe from American origin??.

Steve

I first heard this explanation on a tour of HMS Victory in 1987 - and I tipped the guide 50 pence (in Australia we are opposed to Nazism, Communism and tipping, but not always in that order) so it better be true.
 
To find the truth - I say again - look up "Shot Garlands"^&grin

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Webster's Online Dictionary

(Naut.) a wooden frame to contain shot, secured to the coamings and ledges round the hatchways of a ship.

You don't need EXTRA brass to polish nor the weigh aboard ship.


Miniature versions for ship models.


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I was thinking more like - get it back from the geezer wot you gave it too in the first instance Jack! Just because some ex-Jolly Jack Tar in Ye Olde England stiffed you for fifty pence by spinning an olde nautical yarn, don't think that any old geezer can be talked into re-imbursing you. Especially a Welsh one!!^&grin Don't believe everything sailors tell you, is my advice, me old sport! I think you should take a leaf out of your new Countrymens' book - and cease this tipping lark, altogether. I always try and tell "La Commandante" - with whom I live - to stop it too!{eek3}

You weren't the Pommie kid wot once swopped a cow for a handful of beans were you?................ I heard about that! ;)

All the best :D johnnybach^&grin
 

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