British Artillery in India c.1890's (1 Viewer)

johnnybach

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This is a nice little 30mm Flat project, using some flat figures from the Karl Rieger studio.(http://www.zinnfiguren-rieger.de/)
When they arrive from his online shop, as castings - they look like this:



As you can see - I bought the whole group - which includes a two elephant towed, large calibre, field artillery piece - with a crew of seven, (when you count the cast-in Royal Artillery crewman riding on the limber). Also included are two horse mounted figures - the Officer holding a drawn sabre aloft - and Sergeant pointing. These are optional - as all parts and figures can be bought separately. I got the lot - as I thought it was a wonderful subject and sculpted poses. A small painting guide is included too.

I like to have a look around the web for any possible additional information though - so imagine my surprise when I turned up this, from "The Graphic" - and dated July 1892.

Note the poses of the two Jumbos - and even the fallen crewman who has lost his helmet - which are very close to the sculpted pieces - which I think owe a lot to this picture. This disclosed that a passing train had spooked the elephants - and scattered the battery over a wide area. The sculptor, however, had added in the crew and mounted figures - in order to create a scene that could be interpreted as one of a gun possibly going in to action - which is how I intend to portray them. I also know, that prior to around 1885 - the British Royal Artillery crew would have been wearing navy blue trousers with thick red stripe up the leg - whilst after that date they would have more likely been wearing light khaki pants. So - by 1892 - they would be all in khaki. I therefore moved my date back to 1885 for my group - and will paint them that way.



I painted up one elephant first - to try to get the hang of it. Here's Jumbo2 at an early stage of development:



Both sides - of course:



Whilst this pic shows the other one - with the first thin wash of grey colour applied:

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Here's another pic showing the two elephants - and a couple of the crew underway. Note how I "build up" thin coats of paint on the figures, beginning with thin washes - and building up shading, as I go along.



I'm currently at this stage of development - with the two elephants now completed and a protective coat of varnish applied to both of them - but all of the other figures still under development.



Closer view of gun and crew - which clearly shows different coats of paint - and still unpainted areas:



And the Front end - showing how I have nearly completed shading of the officer figure.



I'll continue posting developments - at intervals. jb
 
Elephant towed artillery is at the top of the wow list imho JB. Looking good so far. {bravo}}

Jeff :salute::
 
Elephant towed artillery is at the top of the wow list imho JB. Looking good so far. {bravo}}

Jeff :salute::

That was my reaction when I found Karl's web-site - and then found his elephants. "Wow!"{eek3}

Then there was another Wow! - when I opened the package - and found the castings. They are simply exceptional.

I don't know whether I'm doing them justice though, as I'm still feeling my way around painting flats. I think I'm beginning to get a bit more adventurous with the shading - but only time will really tell. Very enjoyable to do though.^&grin

As Flats are mostly very reasonably priced - and nearly always available as castings, especially if you can get straight to the sculptor, as I did with these beauties - you can afford a few more sets than their bigger brethren.:smile2:

Because of this, I have just bought another four sets of Flats, from the Berlinner Zinnfiguren (Flea-Market Special Offer section!) - which will mean a 7 Year War Prussian Artillery set, a German Wehrmacht Kavalerrie set and Two German bands from WW1 era - will be appearing here, from time-to-time.

Glad you think they look okay, so far.:salute:: jb
 
JB,

that's brilliant, and just what I love...

Flats & Artillery :)

I'm looking forward to seeing the finished project,

John
 
JB,

that's brilliant, and just what I love...

Flats & Artillery :)

I'm looking forward to seeing the finished project,

John

Ha-ha! And I like bands - and your making one that I'm looking forward to seeing finished too John!:cool:

The more I do of these little beauties - the more I'm getting to like them. So glad you like 'em too - but I ought to have known you'd like them. Once a Gunner............................{sm4} Cheers - jb
 
Here's an update on progress featuring my two mounted gunners and six on foot. I've been working on painting and shading of the horses and upper bodies of the gunners. Note that I still have work to do on the gun and limber - and the figure seated there. You can maybe see the difference in shading of the running gunners and the seated figure, in my first pic. Here's a couple of pics showing how they are developing, so far.

All pieces:



Closer view of foot and horse figures:



Working on the Gun and bases next time. jb
 
WOW! JB, That set looks really top flight, you have a talent for the art of the flat, seems noticeable improvement in shading and the use of color as light with each reveal.
keep it up man! your doing great.
Ray
 
WOW! JB, That set looks really top flight, you have a talent for the art of the flat, seems noticeable improvement in shading and the use of color as light with each reveal.
keep it up man! your doing great.
Ray

Cheers Ray - glad you approve and thanks for another "Wow!":D Seems like most things - the more you practice - the better you get at it. It also helps to be able to have a look at what some of the expert painters do. If you look at my dark brown horse - with the sergeant aboard - you may notice a distinct similarity to a brown horse in one of your latest posts, by that Russian guy! I had a good look at how that one was painted - and then had a go at my version - so thanks for that one!:D

I think I may also be getting a bit "braver" at using colour for darker areas of shadow - and lighter colours for highlighting areas that see the sun and light - so you keep posting - and I'll keep on looking - and giving it my best shot!

All the best, and thanks again. - jb
 
As usual - I appear to have completed my set - when the light is at its worst!. Well. here they are anyway.

Left side:



Right side:



You've seen the Elephants - so here's a closer view of the crew and gun. Hurry up lads - The Naafi's open!:D jb

 
Oh Poo poo JB! give us a better look....please??? I mean really, you did just a great job and we can't even see it? shame on you!
Ray
 
Nice work, JB,

now for better pic when the sun rises :)

John
 
The Sun rising???:smile2: This is the UK - in February!

What's "The Sun":confused: I think I vaguely remember that yellow thing in the sky..............but haven't seen it for a while.:D

However - I will have another go - with my Box Brownie - a bit later on today. Cross fingers - and twiddle the knobs!

La Commandante tells me - we have to go shopping soon.{sm2} See you later.:salute::
 
Here we go - it's now daytime - and I have my "Shoe-Box Photo Booth" at the ready - so will give it my best shot.

Click switch to on: eliminate flash: select most light: - twiddle that button for focus: - cross fingers - Shoot!

Here's how they all look when "connected".



Closer views - Front area:



Rear area with gun:



Closer view of all parts.



Slightly different viewpoint (to try to eliminate shadows).



So...........that's the best I can do - with what I have to hand. I think they show what I have done a bit more clearly. - Will those do?? :D jb.
 
I watched a video on you-tube later on - and saw a guy making a photo-booth from a large cardboard box - so thought I'd give it a go - using a box that once held some Bordeaux!

I call the result - my MarkII, and it's still a bit on the small side, so can't connect them all up properly. Here's the result though - with a view of the right-hand side of my Elephants, Gun and crew.

I'll keep trying................... jb


 
In a further photo experiment - I went back to a glimpse of afternoon sunshine in the front bedroom.

I use a flat slab of poly-foam, covered with a sheet as the base - then set everything up and waited - and waited - and waited. Eventually I was rewarded with a drop of watery sun - and quickly snapped a pic (trying to avoid my own shadow).

Then - I attempted to crop the pic - using the Photobucket "Edit" facility - and saved my cropped picture to "Replace Original" I tried for an oblong shape - cropping out the top and bottom of the picture. BUT it appears this hasn't worked. It looks fine on Photobucket - which has removed the bits I didn't want - but shows up here on the Forum as the original size!!!

Anyone know if there is a delay in re-sizing before you can post - or am I doing something wrong????? jb

 
Here's my last pic of the day. I've mounted my new set on a piece of white corrugated cardboard. Not so difficult as it sounds - as you cut a piece of card to suit - and then a thin slit is made into the corrugations below, just where you want them to stay. Gently push the tiny base into the slit - and it's held in place by the top piece of thick paper. Safe to move them about this way - and can be packed up into a box for moving them around. Hope you like them. jb

 
Oh Poo poo JB! give us a better look....please??? I mean really, you did just a great job and we can't even see it? shame on you!
Ray

Keep the faith Ray - I spent all day trying out different things. {sm2}Thanks - jb:D
 
A grand job there JB! {bravo}} You cranked this set out in double quick time - are you sure you painted both sides? :rolleyes2: :wink2: ^&grin

Jeff :salute::
 
A grand job there JB! {bravo}} You cranked this set out in double quick time - are you sure you painted both sides? :rolleyes2: :wink2: ^&grin

Jeff :salute::

Cheers Jeff - but Nul Points for observation.^&grin If you look back - you can see that I posted BOTH sides, on occasion - though I prefer the left side - as they have more features on most of the figures, on that side.

I did cheat a bit - by starting the painting of them whilst I was waiting for my Army Air Corps figures to dry. The elephants were finished by the time I finished them. There is also far LESS to paint on these - as they are so small - so they don't take long to dry between coats as their bigger brothers do.

Incidentally - I've just looked back - and one of my pics that I cropped on Photobucket - and stayed the same size when I posted it (on #16) - has now appeared as a cropped pic? looks like there is a delay in edited pics appearing as such! jb
 

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