Crimean War and Napoleonic Comparison (1 Viewer)

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Gentle Friends,

There has been much discussion regarding the newly released Crimean War series. The collector comments have been highly complimentary and I am certain the figures deserve the praise they have received. However, I will not have any opportunity to see the actual Crimean figures before the Chicago show, but I am somewhat familiar with the Napoleonic figures. Therefore, I have the following question for those of you who have been fortunate enough to have already obtained some of the Crimean figures. My question is as follows:

How do the Crimean War figures compare to K&C Napoleonic figures in terms of quality? Are the Light Brigade figures more dramatic? Is the sculpting superior? Is the painting of greater quality? Are the poses more realistic/creative? In short, in your respective opinions, do the Crimean War figures exceed the quality of the Napoleonic figures in any specific way? Or, are the two lines comparable and only the subject differs?

I understand the fact that the Crimean War figures are a K&C UK exclusive which makes them special, but in what other ways are the Crimean War figures special? The opinions you are able to provide to me will help me with my budget planning for the Chicago show.

Thank you for any information you can provide. I look forward to reading your perceptions and comments!

Warmest personal regards,

Pat
 
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Gentle Friends,

There has been much discussion regarding the newly released Crimean War series. The collector comments have been highly complimentary and I am certain the figures deserve the praise they have received. However, I will not have any opportunity to see the actual Crimean figures before the Chicago show, but I am somewhat familiar with the Napoleonic figures. Therefore, I have the following question for those of you who have been fortunate enough to have already obtained some of the Crimean figures. My question is as follows:

How do the Crimean War figures compare to K&C Napoleonic figures in terms of quality? Are the Light Brigade figures more dramatic? Is the sculpting superior? Is the painting of greater quality? Are the poses more realistic/creative? In short, in your respective opinions, do the Crimean War figures exceed the quality of the Napoleonic figures in any specific way? Or, are the two lines comparable and only the subject differs?

I understand the fact that the Crimean War figures are a K&C UK exclusive which makes them special, but in what other ways are the Crimean War figures special? The opinions you are able to provide to me will help me with my budget planning for the Chicago show.

Thank you for any information you can provide. I look forward to reading your perceptions and comments!

Warmest personal regards,

Pat


Pat Having only being a collector for a short while i will try to help you out!!! I usually collect Napoleonics but when i saw K&CUK's Crimean Campaign I had to get them and Boy am i glad i did.... In my opinion the things that makes them special compared to the napoleonic is
A) I feel the poses are first class especially the new ones that are apparently coming out (see k&cuk tv ) and totally different from any napoleonic pose

B) The colour scheme is just fantastic i feel the master painters have excelled themselves with this range and a lot of praise must go to the nevilles for beleiving in this range and making it available to us all

This is just my opinion pat
 
Dear Pat

I am a WW2 collector only, but I shall be buying these terrific sets - and I still have not weakened to Napoleonics. They really were good, but see what you think at Chicago. All the very best.
 
Pat,

I don't collect K & C Napoleonics (except for the older glossy version) so I can't compare it. However, I did see the Crimean range at Louis' house when Andy brought them over in March and I thought the sculpting was first rate and the painting exquisite.

I dithered in buying them because of the cash outlay required for the whole first series (since it didn't make sense to me to buy it in part, although I could understand doing so if you lived in the UK, i.e., shipping costs). Well, I'm glad to say that I put my money where my mouth is and will be purchasing them when I see Tony and Bob in Chicago.

Don't know if that helps at all.
 
The Charge are the first non WW2 K&C figures i've purchased.And to answer your question Pat in my opinion they are slightly superior to the Napoleonics.I was able to compare them at the London show a couple of weeks back.I think its just the gradual improvement in realism and quality of K&C's product.I would say the colour,poses and 'Humanity'(!)of these new figures are the best yet,the Naps are of course very good but there is just something about the Charge (especially when seen all together in a dio)that screams quality,depth and realism.I compared the Charge with the new French Cav and the Scots Greys and i would say they are indeed better.Its the progression of excellance and realism taking its natural course.(wow,that was a mouthful!)

To answer you question Pat,yes they are better!:D

Rob
 
Pat

I think they are great!!! OK OK that was the bias bit out of the way.:D

There is a lot of excellent feedback coming in and we have even had a comparisen to St Pete figures!

i think as Andy pointed out in a previous post with Mike and mine 'wants' and with Andy and the rest of teh K&C crews artistic flare, something special has come out of this series.

Also all comments have been they look loads better in the flesh than in pics and on internet.

But as a family business and not pressure sellers i like customers to make their own mind up!

best regards

Tony Neville
K&C UK
 
panda1gen said:
Dear Pat

I am a WW2 collector only, but I shall be buying these terrific sets - and I still have not weakened to Napoleonics. They really were good, but see what you think at Chicago. All the very best.
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You will fall to the Powah of the Napoleonics wheez, rasp, hiss, wheez:eek: Done in best Darth Vader aka KiltVader
 
Tony

Nothing can compare to the wonderful FRENCH NAPOLEONICS - but your "Charge" is a close second ! ;)

Le Ron
 
Gentle Friends,

Thank you for providing your feedback and your opinions regarding my Crimean question. The artistic quality of the Crimean figures must be quite good. I shall look forward to seeing them in Chicago.

Again, thank you for the information you have provided me. It is very helpful to me in planning my OTSN budget.

Warmest personal regards,

Pat
 
Pat

Hunt our room out before the show its on the trading floors. We have two tables at the show show you will be able to see them there if your not around for the days before the show.

All the best

Tony Neville
K&C UK
 
Tony Neville said:
Pat

Hunt our room out before the show its on the trading floors. We have two tables at the show show you will be able to see them there if your not around for the days before the show.

All the best

Tony Neville
K&C UK
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Hi Tony,

I will most definitely find your room prior to the actual show on Sunday. I plan to arrive at the hotel on Thursday afternoon.

See you and the rest of your movie stars in Chicago! :D

Warmest personal regards,

Pat ;)
 
Hi Guys,

Re the question posed by Wadepat… my intention when designing any figure is to always try to improve or do it better than the one before.

As far as the new Crimean War figures go my own two personal favourites are the British 17th Lancer with the “Union Jack” (a big thankyou to Erroll Flynn and the early movie version) and the Russian officer.

As far as overall cavalry is concerned I do (in all modesty) like our new French Cuirassiers. I don’t think one lot is better than the other… they’re just different.

At the end of the day “you pays your money and you make your choice”.

Let’s just enjoy all of it. For the record both the Crimean War and the new Cuirassiers were sculpted by the very same man (he’s great with horses) and designed by the same guy… me.

Anyway that’s my tuppence worth! Best wishes and… happy collecting… either Crimean… Napoleonic… or ideally both!

Andy C.
 
That is a hard question to answer. I have both Napoleonic figures and Crimean figures. Its not that one is better than the other, but I do believe some additional attention was paid to details in the Crimean figures. The subtle changes in color and use of gloss and matt finishes gives the Crimean figures a slight edge over the Napoleonic Cavalry figures I have. As Andy said, in the end, you buy what you like.
 
King & Country said:
Hi Guys,

Re the question posed by Wadepat… my intention when designing any figure is to always try to improve or do it better than the one before.

As far as the new Crimean War figures go my own two personal favourites are the British 17th Lancer with the “Union Jack” (a big thankyou to Erroll Flynn and the early movie version) and the Russian officer.

As far as overall cavalry is concerned I do (in all modesty) like our new French Cuirassiers. I don’t think one lot is better than the other… they’re just different.

At the end of the day “you pays your money and you make your choice”.

Let’s just enjoy all of it. For the record both the Crimean War and the new Cuirassiers were sculpted by the very same man (he’s great with horses) and designed by the same guy… me.

Anyway that’s my tuppence worth! Best wishes and… happy collecting… either Crimean… Napoleonic… or ideally both!

Andy C.
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Hi Andy,

Thank you for your insight. You have placed your finger on the real point of my question. If the Crimean figures and the latest Cuirassiers were sculpted, painted, and produced within a relatively small period of time from each other, can one set of figures possibly be significantly better than the other? My question becomes even more significant is the two sets of figures were sculpted by the same artist. In my feeble mind, I cannot imagine that one series, when compared to figures produced at relatively the same time and scupted by the same artist, would be significantly superior. That is not to say that one series might not be more popular or better received by the collecting public.

Please do not interprete my question or my comments to imply that I do not think the Crimean figures are less than wonderful. They are beautiful and I wish I had them in my collection. However, for me, I must make some budgetary decisions: Should I postpone purchasing some Napoleonics in favor of the Crimean figures, which might mean some of the Napoleonic figures become retired before I can acquire them? Or, do I continue to add the Napoleonic figures to my collection and avoid the pain of not being able to add specific figures before they are retired? I know I am the only one who can make this personal decision, but all the feedback and opinions help me make these important personal judgements.

Thanks to everyone for expressing your opinions and observations!

Warmest personal regards,

Pat
 
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