Estate Collection: Painted 54mm Colonial Indian Figures, 30+ (1 Viewer)

[macchim-5]

I acquired an estate collection of nice painted 54mm figures. Indian colonial period, nothing earthshaking but a lot of nice pieces. Take a look!

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_ipg=50&_ssn=macchim-5&_sop=1

M.

 

[theBaron]

Ah, OK, "Colonial Indian" meaning, the Raj, not Colonial America and North American Indians. Yes, they're very nicely finished.

Who was Murphy, by the way?

Prost!
Brad

 

[macchim-5]

I don't know the fellow who owned them but I was told his name was Murphy so it seemed like I should give him credit for some nice painting. Also it would be nice if someone recognized his work and spoke up...

As far as Colonial Indian, I will tell you I spent a while trying to figure out the best term. Indian, Asian Indian, Indian Under British Rule? I think one figure is a Jain and maybe they don't like to be referred to as Indian at all. Raj is a good idea. Hopefully people will be curious enough to check

M.

 

[Mirof]

Allas US ebay
The transport costs are to high for Europe
Rose miniatures : the ones with "hexagonal" bases are real Rose Miniatures, the others are coming from the molds bought by a toy soldiers seller in England, very poor painting http://www.johnedenstudios.com/

But prices are interesting for somebody like me who like to paint them, easy to strip the colours down and repaint .
So friend painters in the US this is a splendid opportunity for you, this is what can be achieved with what I would call a "fair" painting

 

[theBaron]

...Rose miniatures : the ones with "hexagonal" bases are real Rose Miniatures, the others are coming from the molds bought by a toy soldiers seller in England, very poor painting http://www.johnedenstudios.com/

I'm afraid I have to disagree with you, Mirof old chap! Gammage also issued his kit figures with rectangular bases cast integrally with the figures. For example, I have multiple examples of Gammage's Prussian Seven Years War cuirassiers. Some were kits with the pedestal bases, others have the rectangular base cast with the figure. Given that this collection may be old enough, I suspect that all of them are original Rose kit figures.

True, though, that John Eden uses the rectangular bases, too. I don't think he cast the old pedestal bases.

He casts copies of other makers' figures, too. Most are out of print, from makers who no longer exist, but he's now casting Puchala figures. Those are not out of print, but are currently cast and sold under license by Muertiz Miniaturen. That makes them pirated copies, essentially.

Prost!
Brad

 

[macchim-5]

I can't say how old all the figures are. Some in the collection are clearly mid and early 1960s, but there were some Superior models copyrighted 1980s. I am fond of Rose figures in any case, and I just picked up about ten more Indian Colonial figures that ill it's soon.

Mike

 

[Oberstinhaber]

I'm afraid I have to disagree with you, Mirof old chap! Gammage also issued his kit figures with rectangular bases cast integrally with the figures. For example, I have multiple examples of Gammage's Prussian Seven Years War cuirassiers. Some were kits with the pedestal bases, others have the rectangular base cast with the figure. Given that this collection may be old enough, I suspect that all of them are original Rose kit figures.

True, though, that John Eden uses the rectangular bases, too. I don't think he cast the old pedestal bases.

He casts copies of other makers' figures, too. Most are out of print, from makers who no longer exist, but he's now casting Puchala figures. Those are not out of print, but are currently cast and sold under license by Muertiz Miniaturen. That makes them pirated copies, essentially.

Prost!
Brad

Dear Baron,

Everything you said above about Rose is correct, but it is not the full story.

When Russell Gammage first started in the 50's; and into the 60's. he cast figures with rectangular bases cast in. In the late 60's he switched to the separate octagonal bases. Russell sold out to Ceremonial Studios, who didn't do much, who then sold the "Rose" line to Jim Robinson

Jim Robinson produced the Rose figures as "painted toys" under the banner of "Fusilier" Miniatures. these had a base cast in. Later, he was persuaded to reintroduce the "Rose" line of figures as castings. These were sold with the octagonal bases.

John Eden "inherited" this range. He too, dallied with "painted toys". I believe he no longer does "painted toys", but he does offer the complete range of "Rose Miniatures" as castings, with the classic octagonal base.

So, what we are seeing could be from "John Eden Studios", "Fusilier Miniatures", or from any of 3 incarnations of castings.

Such an interesting hobby!

I too noted that John Eden has been selling what are clearly Ulrich Puchala's work. Again, I understand that Ully doesn't "own" these figures anymore. Not sure who does! It is up to the owner of the Copyright to "talk" to Mr Eden.

Happy Collecting,

Oberstinhaber