Fortified desert house (1 Viewer)

[Guy]

Hello Fellow Collectors,
Good and great news !!!!
I am working on a master for Thomas: a fortified desert house .
This desert house will go with a lot of figure series: The French Foreign Legion, The Great War, Napoleon in Egypt or WW2. You will have the choice .
When the house is finished I'll start working on some fortified walls to go with it ( no seams will be visible,- important for some collectors).
Tom asked me not to show any pictures, it must remain a surprise, but I can show you how it all started with some drawings .
Please note the drawings do no longer correspond with the final model under construction
Hope this is something to look forward to in 2016
guy

 

[Artillery_crazy]

Look forward to seeing the real thing.....would be great as an add on to my FFL.....
Cheers
A_C:salute::

Hello Fellow Collectors,
Good and great news !!!!
I am working on a master for Thomas: a fortified desert house .
This desert house will go with a lot of figure series: The French Foreign Legion, The Great War, Napoleon in Egypt or WW2. You will have the choice .
When the house is finished I'll start working on some fortified walls to go with it ( no seams will be visible,- important for some collectors).
Tom asked me not to show any pictures, it must remain a surprise, but I can show you how it all started with some drawings .
Please note the drawings do no longer correspond with the final model under construction
Hope this is something to look forward to in 2016
guy
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[tommy416]

Going to need some dead FFL for the battlements, and some marching with out packs

 

[Guy]

Going to need some dead FFL for the battlements, and some marching with out packs

Could also be the other way round . The FFL attacking a fortified desert house full of Arabs
guy

 

[Guy]

The prototype of the fortified desert house will be finished next week and on its way to Tom .
I've promised Tom not to show any pictures of the completed building , but I will show you one picture, a close up of part of the house.
I do hope you'll like what you see
guy

 

[villagehorse]

Looks fairly detailed and promising. Robin.

 

[mikemiller1955]

Looks beautiful!!!!

 

[Artillery_crazy]

Hi Guy,
It seems nice, but if you are to consider this a fortified desert house.....to be true to the name....you should consider less of heavy stones as frame to the doorway and Windows....it would have to be more in the lines of mud bricks and plaster? Otherwise would resemble more of an European Strong house.....
Remeber the K&C ones and the ones made by Laura from Spain...here are the pics ....

The prototype of the fortified desert house will be finished next week and on its way to Tom .
I've promised Tom not to show any pictures of the completed building , but I will show you one picture, a close up of part of the house.
I do hope you'll like what you see
guy

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[Guy]

Tom asked me to make something different and not to copy the K&C desert houses.Wait till you see the whole building AC, and if I remember well Lola Simon from Spain ( not Laura) makes copies of Spanish houses and ruins. Many desert houses were built with local stone ( rock) and covered with plaster , they were not all made of mud bricks, the North African desert is in some places more stone than sand. (picture of a house and desert village in the Egyptian desert)
guy

 

[Artillery_crazy]

Hi Guy,
Look forward to seeing it then....but still so, compare your " stone appliques " and the photos you added and you still look like a front door of a house in the Pyreenes ..... and less of an out post in the Northern Desert on the fringes of the Atlas mountains....
The stones are massive compaired in scale to the door.....they would not apply such large stones they would ( if used ) smaller and lighter ones...as seen on you second photo...while the one on the Egyptian village the whole structures are made on smaller shingle style slabs, then covered in plaster on certain sides.....right hand side wall....
My take is that it is still too heavily European influenced...see some real Marroco style buildings for reference....

 

[Artillery_crazy]

Hi Guy,
Two are the topics that I have great interest for and are present in my collecting - Artillery and French Foreign Legion....so to help in getting the correct style of FFL Strong house and or block house as they actually existed and not some imaginary conception see the attached pictures.....

 

[Artillery_crazy]

Hi Guy,
I personally took a couple of pictures of an original block house when in a trip I will look for them and attach to this tread so you can see how close - far you are on your model

 

[Artillery_crazy]

Hi Guy,
A couple of pictures of an original block house and watch tower.....so you can see how close - far you are on your model---- as you can see the size of the stones used were smaller than the ones you are using and the amount of mud bricks was substantial at all French theaters of campaign....Morroco, Sahara, Algeria and all across the Atlas mountain range......
If Tom does not mind offering his customers a stong point/tower or house that was not 100% aligned with historically accurate buildings of the time......then you are ok...if you are looking for a historically accurate reporoduction then you should consider some changes to the model....Hate to say but K&C is closer to the actual strucutres that the FFL used than the one you are considering...
Cheers
Luiz

 

[Guy]

Hi Guy,
A couple of pictures of an original block house and watch tower.....so you can see how close - far you are on your model---- as you can see the size of the stones used were smaller than the ones you are using and the amount of mud bricks was substantial at all French theaters of campaign....Morroco, Sahara, Algeria and all across the Atlas mountain range......
If Tom does not mind offering his customers a stong point/tower or house that was not 100% aligned with historically accurate buildings of the time......then you are ok...if you are looking for a historically accurate reporoduction then you should consider some changes to the model....Hate to say but K&C is closer to the actual strucutres that the FFL used than the one you are considering...
Cheers
Luiz

Luiz, you're going a bit too quick and too far
first: although you haven't seen the complete building yet you are already full of negative comments. I fear and I feel you will not change your opinion on this matter.
second: I remember in my comments I pointed out that it was going to be a building that should fit into an FFL, WW1,WW2 or Napoleonic scene;so countries like Libya, Egypt, Sudan, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, etc.. had to be considered etc ..;
third:have a look at one of your own pictures: note the size of the stones supporting doors and windows.
guy

 

[Artillery_crazy]

Hi Guy,
Not negative, just pointing out what a real blockhouse or stronghouse or watch tower actually looks like in Northern French África....And....Yes I have seen and these are mud bricks covered in plaster...Have been at some myself when in Marocco...

If they are going to be WW1/WW2 and Napoleonic then they are fine....!!!.Countryside Belgium, France ..... but sorry not Desert/Legion...
But again, we decide on the accuracy of our dioramas and there are tastes for all ......

Good look on the enterprise....eventually you will see me signing up for a sample as a WW1/WW2 diorama complemente to my dios ....never said I would not for the correct theater of war the squetch you have shown and the glimpse of the door way gives us an idea of a great European theatre dio prop...look forward to the final product......

Luiz, you're going a bit too quick and too far
first: although you haven't seen the complete building yet you are already full of negative comments. I fear and I feel you will not change your opinion on this matter.
second: I remember in my comments I pointed out that it was going to be a building that should fit into an FFL, WW1,WW2 or Napoleonic scene;so countries like Libya, Egypt, Sudan, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, etc.. had to be considered etc ..;
third:have a look at one of your own pictures: note the size of the stones supporting doors and windows.
guy
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