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marco55

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I'm putting this under Jenkins as the FIW is discussed here more than anywhere else.On Barzo's website he has 13"mortars which look quite nice.They sell for $12.95 each.I hope Jenkins eventually puts some out but until he does these would do just fine.
Mark
 
I'm putting this under Jenkins as the FIW is discussed here more than anywhere else.On Barzo's website he has 13"mortars which look quite nice.They sell for $12.95 each.I hope Jenkins eventually puts some out but until he does these would do just fine.
Mark

Mark...I may be reading this wrong...
not sure if this is what you're referring to...

but I don't think it's $12.95 each...

I think it's 3 mortars for $12.95...($4.32 per)...

a very good price...

"Set of three 13" French Mortars. Great for French and Indian War and Revolutionary War.
Three Mortars - Six pieces...$12.95"
 

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You are right Mike which makes it even better.:salute::
Mark
 
This is rivet counting at it's worst, but I believe the 13-inch mortar was a British designation. The French utilized 10 and 12-inch mortars, but I can find no reference to a 13-inch French mortar either before or after the FIW. Montcalm's largest mortars at the siege of Fort William Henry were apparently 10-inch.

A letter from Lord Loudoun to Lord Cumberland (October 1756) lists a single 13-inch mortar at Fort William Henry together with 2 10-inch, 2 8-inch and 3-7 inch mortars. It appears that at least half these mortars were moved out of FWH prior to the siege by Montcalm (August 1757) , probably to Fort Edward. At least 3, if not 4, british mortars burst during the siege (all the British had). Unfortunately for the Britsh, two of these mortars burst during first two days of the siege prior to the first French battery being opened. Apparently, the last mortar burst on the last day of the siege or the night before. During and prior to the FIW, the design of mortars was critically flawed, placing undue stress on the barrel because of an improperly designed powder chamber that slammed the shell against the "lower" barrel wall. The shape of the powder chamber was all wrong.

Bursting was not confined to mortars. At FWH, the British lost almost all of their larger cannon to bursting including 2-32 pounders, 2-18 pounders, 2-12 pounders and 2-10 pounders (Monro's description).

Abercrombie had a 13-inch mortar at his Lake George Camp prior to Ticonderoga. I am unsure if Abercrombie moved this huge massive chunk of metal to the battle itself.
 
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The Barzo mortars are indeed a nice addition. Based on their size, my guess is they can be used as a French 12-inch Mortar, French 10-inch Mortar, or a British 10-inch Mortar. If someone wants to say they are 8-inch mortars, no problem with me. My gut says they are too small to represent a British 13-inch mortar.

With large caliper mortars, the height and weight of a British mortar was twice that of a French mortar. As a guideline, the barrel length of a large caliper British Mortar was 3-times the caliper of the shell, whereas, a French mortar the barrel was only 1.5 times the caliper. Not the most accurate of weapons on the first shot.

The weight of the "metal' of a 13-inch British Mortar would be somewhere around 2,800 pounds.

No idea of the quality of this, but

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q...7A346C&first=0&qpvt=8-inch+mortar&FORM=IDFRIR
 

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