german tanks:black cross and number need some weathering... (1 Viewer)

Poppo

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In the past, KC vehicles were all weathered apart from the wheel tires. Then they saw someone' s dios with weathered tires and since that moment they corrected this mistake.

There is another thing to improve: to weathering of the black crosses and numbers on tanks. They are well weathered apart from those decals who stay shining bright. Watching my dio, I was bothered and noticed this mistake and I easily corrected it , now the tank is perfectly realistic.


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Shining Bright..................Where ? A Panzer 38(T) borrowed from our talented photographer DM101....... Cheers !

Wayne
 

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Shining Bright..................Where ? A Panzer 38(T) borrowed from our talented photographer DM101....... Cheers !

Wayne



Hey, did you read my post? I talk of the DECALS only....And yes, they are shining bright also in the new tank..
 
Hey, did you read my post? I talk of the DECALS only....And yes, they are shining bright also in the new tank..

Hey, Did you view the photo ? Where in this photo of the 38(T) are the "Decals" Shining Bright" ??? I chose this Tank as it has Large Turret numeral markings and they

appear "Flat" to me ! The photo speaks for itself..............Cheers !
Just bringing up a point. No need to start hurling potatoes yet !
 
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If I may, I think Poppo's choice of words is unfortunate. They're not "shining bright", but they do appear unweathered, compared to the surrounding area. The colors of the Balkenkreuz are bright, they appear to have been painted over a weathered surface. I see his point. Look at his photos, too, and you can see this. He dry-brushed some dust and dirt colors over the markings, and they blend in better with the rest of the surface.

Prost!
Brad
 
If I may, I think Poppo's choice of words is unfortunate. They're not "shining bright", but they do appear unweathered, compared to the surrounding area. The colors of the Balkenkreuz are bright, they appear to have been painted over a weathered surface. I see his point. Look at his photos, too, and you can see this. He dry-brushed some dust and dirt colors over the markings, and they blend in better with the rest of the surface.

Prost!
Brad

That is exactly what Poppo wanted to say . They are not weathered like the rest of the tank. I think it's because the decals are put in place once the painting of the tank is fully finished. A picture to show you the weathered effect in reality
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Hey, Did you view the photo ? Where in this photo of the 38(T) are the "Decals" Shining Bright" ??? I chose this Tank as it has Large Turret numeral markings and they

appear "Flat" to me ! The photo speaks for itself..............Cheers !
Just bringing up a point. No need to start hurling potatoes yet !

Not meaning to hurl potatoes, but it does strike me as proving Poppo's point rather than disproving it. They do seem very vivid and bright to me compared to the rest of the weathering which makes a nice looking Panzer.
 
Not meaning to hurl potatoes, but it does strike me as proving Poppo's point rather than disproving it. They do seem very vivid and bright to me compared to the rest of the weathering which makes a nice looking Panzer.

Agree. The brown paint used to give a dusty effect is on pretty much every surface of the Panzer 38T except the decals. It's a valid observation.
 
First thing I would like to address is the comment of the Decals "Shining Bright" comment which drew me into this thread in the first place. As Baron stated being weathered
and shining bright are 2 completely different things. My example that I used of the Panzer 38(T) show the Turret numbers blending "Flat" more so than Shining bright.
Weathered markings are a different topic completely. I would think King & Country made their decision on this matter based upon what the Majority of Collectors preferred.
If we talk weathering, then one could also add in scraping and damage done to markings as well. Then there would be someone saying the unit markings , etc..... are not
easily identifiable because it was covered over, weathered, scraped, etc..... My point is "Weathering" would also include damage. Based upon all of this would it not be
easier to allow the few select collectors to "Weather" the vehicle markings as they individually see fit ? Tough subject here as not everyone will be happy with everything
all of the time........But most of us will be ! Cheers to Poppo and my apologies if I came across too harshly !

Wayne
 
Fellas, I have been looking at my K&C vehicles in my collection (German, US, British) and some of them have the decals both weathered and scratched to imitate an aged and battle worn affect while others are like what is shown below. I do not know why this is the case but im guessing it comes down to cost as more time spent on detailing vehicles could make them more expensive. This is only my opinion though as other factors could be in play.

Tom
 
If we talk weathering, then one could also add in scraping and damage done to markings as well.




Sure, also damage and scraping to markings as well.:p
 
It was a pretty simple topic and pretty clear original post. No reason to make it more difficult.

Just like the Panzer 38(t), the AK Panzer IV has weathering/paint simulating dirt on the entire tank except the Balkenkreuze and turret numbers. It's not realistic for the entire tank to be covered in dirt but miraculously all the markings are pristine. It's also not about pleasing all of the collectors with the chosen level of weathering or costing more.

It was simply a comment that if you depict the tank as used/worn/weathered, then the vehicle markings should also be used/worn/weathered. Conversely, if K&C decided to depict a tank with a factory new paint job, it would look out of place if they paired it with dirty, scrathed, worn vehicle markings.
 
It was a pretty simple topic and pretty clear original post. No reason to make it more difficult.

Just like the Panzer 38(t), the AK Panzer IV has weathering/paint simulating dirt on the entire tank except the Balkenkreuze and turret numbers. It's not realistic for the entire tank to be covered in dirt but miraculously all the markings are pristine. It's also not about pleasing all of the collectors with the chosen level of weathering or costing more.

It was simply a comment that if you depict the tank as used/worn/weathered, then the vehicle markings should also be used/worn/weathered. Conversely, if K&C decided to depict a tank with a factory new paint job, it would look out of place if they paired it with dirty, scrathed, worn vehicle markings.

Could not agree more . A simple touch is sometimes more than enough
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