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Hi all,

No Chicago for me this year but even better a East Coast trip in late June with a few days to Gettysburg and Fort Delaware to retrace my 3 time Great-grandfather's footsteps and the 55th of Virginia, I've never had the pleasure of getting to Gettysburg so if any members here have any suggestions as to what to see, do, stay etc. While at Gettysburg or Fort Delaware please share your ideas, thanks in advance for any help.
 
Hi all,

No Chicago for me this year but even better a East Coast trip in late June with a few days to Gettysburg and Fort Delaware to retrace my 3 time Great-grandfather's footsteps and the 55th of Virginia, I've never had the pleasure of getting to Gettysburg so if any members here have any suggestions as to what to see, do, stay etc. While at Gettysburg or Fort Delaware please share your ideas, thanks in advance for any help.

When you go to Gettysburg, make sure you check out the battlefield.
 
Plan on spending 2 days there as I want to see as much as possible of the entire battlefields.

As I told you in the other thread, be prepared for huge crowds in June, that's prime visiting season.


Make sure you go to the visitors center and check out the panorama and the artifacts there; it's not anywhere near as good as the old one, sometimes new is not better.

Make sure also you hire a guide, tell him what Rebel unit your relative was in, he'll take you out to the spot on the field where they fought, they are a wealth of knowledge. One day on the battlefield is more than enough, probably the limit as to what your family can tolerate as well. You can spend the second day visiting museums and the town itself.

You can park you vehicle anywhere you want pretty much along the battlefield and walk all you want as well; I've done the Pickett's Charge walk, Ewell's assault on Cemetery Hill, the fighting around the Herbst woods and McPherson barn, the fighting around Oak Hill, Barksdales Charge, Hoods assault on Devils Den and Little Round Top.

The three most crowded spots on the battlefield are Little Round Top, the Copse of Trees at the angle and the Virginia monument, that's where Pickett's charge kicked off, a lot of southerners flock to that spot, they stand there with this glazed over look on their faces, the old woulda, coulda, shoulda feeling sweeps over them and they wander around like extras from The Walking Dead, so be prepared, maybe take your LET'S GO O'S!! ballcap off and have your own personal moment on that spot.

Pickett's Charge was nothing short of suicide, you'll understand that if you walk it, at certain points, you're totally exposed in the field, at one point in the charge, they were flanked on both sides, taking fire from three sides if you will, just a foolish decision by Lee.

Each time I go, I spent time in one specific spot; this year will be where the 1st MN charged on the second day; 262 men held off over 2,000 Rebels, the 1st MN was almost entirely wiped out in their attack, but they saved the 2nd Corps *****.

The Union Army fought with a purpose at this battle, which is understandable as it was on Northern soil, a much different proposition than the fighting up until that point.

Everytime I go there, I'm filled with great pride that the Union won the battle and it was the high tide of the Confederacy, then I am saddened that so many gave their lives fighting for what they believed in, then further saddened to think Americans were killing Americans there, it's all so sad.

You will get a great sense that something terrible happened there, the place has this feeling of dread hanging over it, can't explain it, but you'll feel it too.

DO NOT get one of those cheesy auto tour tapes to listen to, a 6th grader could tell you more about the battle than those things do.

None of the gift shops sell Rebel flags anymore, so if you want to put one in the area where your relative was, you'll need to bring your own, I see little flags all over the battlefield, people leave them in various spots.

Oh and take care of business before you go out on the battlefield, there are no latrines on the field.

And DO NOT eat at General Pickett's Buffet, the food tastes like it was leftover from the war and brings me back to my point about no latrines...................
 
George,

Thank you for your reply and information, I'd love to go in the Fall but work schedules, inventory taking, makes it tough so late June it is.....after your reply I am even more excited to get there, eps. Picketts Charge, to see where my ancestor walked that field and try to imagine what he saw.

Thanks again for your reply, are you doing any shows between June21-30th??
 
to see where my ancestor walked that field and try to imagine what he saw................

Thanks again for your reply, are you doing any shows between June21-30th??

What he saw was horrific; dead and dying men to his left, right, front and rear, bullets flying, cannon balls whistling by as well.

All the while, he tried to maintain his composure, do his job and most importantly, stay alive.

No shows during that time, I have Gettysburg on the 29th of April, MFCA May 4th and 5th, then nothing until Chicago..................
 
The Wyndham is the nicest hotel in the area but a couple miles out of town. If you want to stay in town, there is the Gettysburg Hotel on Lincoln Square and several B&Bs. Farnsworth House Inn has rooms and a lot of movie props from the Gettysburg movie and a nice courtyard for lunch (hot peanut soup!). Dobbin House is nice as well. There are plenty of inexpensive dumps as well.

There are a couple of toy soldier shops in town. The Antique Center on Baltimore St has the best selection along with a wild assortment of other things (like glass eyes). They are closed on Tuesday. Lord Nelson's Gallery is somewhat unique because it is oriented to the French-Indian War rather than the Civil War. The Ghost tours are wildly popular in the summer. The kids seem to like them more than the battlefield.

As for the battlefield, there are some unique ways to tour including horse back and segway tours. And don't forget the Eisenhower Farm. You have to take a bus there. They recently (as in a couple years ago) opened up the Wills home where Lincoln spent the night. I actually haven't done that one. It can be boiling hot in the summer. I agree with George on getting a tour guide if you want more than the basics of the driving tour. A lot of area to cover on the battlefield. Be prepared to know what you want to see beforehand. Culp's Hill is often overlooked and somewhat difficult to find even though the entrance is now near the new visitor's center. The open top double decker tour buses are nice but be prepared to have heat stroke in the summer.
 
The Wyndham is the nicest hotel in the area but a couple miles out of town. If you want to stay in town, there is the Gettysburg Hotel on Lincoln Square and several B&Bs. Farnsworth House Inn has rooms and a lot of movie props from the Gettysburg movie and a nice courtyard for lunch (hot peanut soup!). Dobbin House is nice as well. There are plenty of inexpensive dumps as well.

There are a couple of toy soldier shops in town. The Antique Center on Baltimore St has the best selection along with a wild assortment of other things (like glass eyes). They are closed on Tuesday. Lord Nelson's Gallery is somewhat unique because it is oriented to the French-Indian War rather than the Civil War. The Ghost tours are wildly popular in the summer. The kids seem to like them more than the battlefield.

As for the battlefield, there are some unique ways to tour including horse back and segway tours. And don't forget the Eisenhower Farm. You have to take a bus there. They recently (as in a couple years ago) opened up the Wills home where Lincoln spent the night. I actually haven't done that one. It can be boiling hot in the summer. I agree with George on getting a tour guide if you want more than the basics of the driving tour. A lot of area to cover on the battlefield. Be prepared to know what you want to see beforehand. Culp's Hill is often overlooked and somewhat difficult to find even though the entrance is now near the new visitor's center. The open top double decker tour buses are nice but be prepared to have heat stroke in the summer.

I watch a lot of the videos on YouTube with the guides giving talks at certain points on the battlefield, it's incredible how much knowledge they have. The only aspect that is a pet peeve of mine is as they describe the action and point all over the place, you really have no perspective of the actual terrain and troop movements. I've seen a number of videos of drones flying over the battlefield, those shots are outstanding as you can then see the actual terrain. There was a video a few years ago about Gettysburg with Steven Lange narrating it and they used footage of drones in a few spots, it was excellent, someone should do a series on the battles with drone footage, it would be tremendous.
 
Excellent suggestions by both George and Doug. Definitely hire a battlefield guide. They'll jump in your car and even drive. Cost maybe $100, but well worth it. You must book over one week in advance though. Found that out the last time I went and had to take the bus tour, which was okay. I like to watch the Gettysburg movie (based on the Killer Angels book) before I go. I think it gives a nice overview of the battle. While you're there, see the terrain, imagine yourself at the actual battle and you will realize war is hell.
 
Excellent suggestions by both George and Doug. Definitely hire a battlefield guide. They'll jump in your car and even drive. Cost maybe $100, but well worth it. You must book over one week in advance though. Found that out the last time I went and had to take the bus tour, which was okay. I like to watch the Gettysburg movie (based on the Killer Angels book) before I go. I think it gives a nice overview of the battle. While you're there, see the terrain, imagine yourself at the actual battle and you will realize war is hell.

Michael Shaara's son Jeff now lives in the Gettysburg area. He does frequent book signings at Lord Nelson's Gallery and they have signed copies available of just about all of his books. Unfortunately, Gettysburg itself hasn't economically benefitted from its historical past as much as some other places. The battlefield is well preserved but the town can be rundown. There is nothing much that you might call high-end dining or accommodations. Granted that isn't why most people come there, but it would be nice to have a few more decent shops and places to eat.
 
I watch a lot of the videos on YouTube with the guides giving talks at certain points on the battlefield, it's incredible how much knowledge they have. The only aspect that is a pet peeve of mine is as they describe the action and point all over the place, you really have no perspective of the actual terrain and troop movements. I've seen a number of videos of drones flying over the battlefield, those shots are outstanding as you can then see the actual terrain. There was a video a few years ago about Gettysburg with Steven Lange narrating it and they used footage of drones in a few spots, it was excellent, someone should do a series on the battles with drone footage, it would be tremendous.

The local PA cable station runs the park service videos of the battlefield. They are great on detail and it's fun to watch the people baking alive from the comfort of your living room. These are not professional shows though. As you say, the camera work leaves a lot to be desired. The terrain is often blocked by the folks on tour. Some three hundred pound guy in a lawn chair can block half of Pickett's charge.

PCN sells the DVDs and they are probably worth viewing for the information. Some of the most fascinating ones to me are the history of the battlefield after the battle. Like when they held the anniversary events in the early 1900s when thousands of Civil War soldiers were able to attend. They set up tent cities for them. Or when parts of the battlefield operated as a kind of amusement park ride with Disneyland-type trolleys carrying tourists around on the field. Or the many controversies regarding the design and placement of the monuments. That in itself became a battle of a different sort.
 
Michael Shaara's son Jeff now lives in the Gettysburg area. He does frequent book signings at Lord Nelson's Gallery and they have signed copies available of just about all of his books. Unfortunately, Gettysburg itself hasn't economically benefitted from its historical past as much as some other places. The battlefield is well preserved but the town can be rundown. There is nothing much that you might call high-end dining or accommodations. Granted that isn't why most people come there, but it would be nice to have a few more decent shops and places to eat.

i think the problem is a lot of the places cater to Hobo Joe, his wife and his 2.5 children who blow into town for the weekend to see the battlefield, nose around in the shops around town and try to stay and eat on the cheap. When I was a kid, my parents took me and my sister to Gettysburg, we stayed at the Day's Inn across the street from the Wax Museum and the décor was 1950's I Love Lucy at it's finest.

20 years later when I returned to Gettysburg next, I stayed at the same hotel and I swear to Christ the décor was the same as it was in 1972. What a dump.

And the restaurants; good Lord. There was a restaurant down the street from the hotel, it had THE worse breakfast I ever had. There is a pub further down the road and the staff there were about as rude as rude gets. I've been back countless times since, I found a nice pub in the center of town across the street from the Lincoln Hotel and a great Italian restaurant in the opposite direction on the left hand side, very good food IMO. I usually stay at the Wyndham, it's very pricey, but you only live once and I like it there, although there is always some group staying there stampeding through the place by the busload.

The Gettysburg diorama in the building across the street from the Days Inn is pretty cool, the guy who bought it did so from Jeff Leighton, who produced a spectacular VHS called Gettysburg In Miniature, he used thousands of 15mm, 20mm and 25mm figures, I bought 1,000 of the 20mm figures when they went up for sale, had no idea the terrain was available too. The guy who bought it filled it with cheesy Airfix ho/oo scale figures, but again, the terrain is very nice, well worth seeing.

And again, the new visitors center is a mess, very Spartan with the relics, most of which from the original visitors center are still in storage.

I'm surprised a toy soldier shop can survive there; again, Hobo Joe is looking for a 5.00 bag of BMC figures for his kid to play with on the hotel floor, not a 199.00 First Legion French Chasseur a Cheval........................
 
I can not tell you guys enough how grateful I am for all of the responses, it will certainly come in handy when I iron out all the details for the trip.

I'll definitely post a few photos and my personal experience once I return from vacation, again I think I have not looked forward to any vacation as much as this one, and I'm sure it will be a adventure for my brother and I, as we plan on doing some OBX fishing (Outer Banks) some metal detecting, hoping to visit Chancellorsville, Petersburg, Gettysburg, Fort Delaware battlefields, most certainly doing some blue Crabbing over on the Eastern Shore, and hope to squeeze Oriole game in, can"t wait is the understatement of the year!!!!
 
Or the many controversies regarding the design and placement of the monuments. That in itself became a battle of a different sort.

Speaking of monuments, I don't get why the Longstreet statue has no plinth, that's the weirdest statue I've ever seen. It looks really weird with no plinth, I don't get it.
 
I can not tell you guys enough how grateful I am for all of the responses, it will certainly come in handy when I iron out all the details for the trip.

I'll definitely post a few photos and my personal experience once I return from vacation, again I think I have not looked forward to any vacation as much as this one, and I'm sure it will be a adventure for my brother and I, as we plan on doing some OBX fishing (Outer Banks) some metal detecting, hoping to visit Chancellorsville, Petersburg, Gettysburg, Fort Delaware battlefields, most certainly doing some blue Crabbing over on the Eastern Shore, and hope to squeeze Oriole game in, can"t wait is the understatement of the year!!!!

It all sounds great.

Except for the Orioles game.
 
The free part of the Visitor Center might be sparse in ACW militaria, but housed in the same building is the Cyclorama and a fantastic ACW Museum. Now those attractions are not free, so maybe someone has been skipping them on their visits to the battlefield. :wink2:

https://www.gettysburgfoundation.org/museum-and-visitor-center/

I like to stay at the Marriot Courtyard. It's a couple of miles out of town, but the route from there in to town will take you right by the Visitor Center, Cyclorama and Museum, the best place to start your visit. From the Vis.Center you can take easy walking trail to Meade's HQ and the 3rd day Union line along Cemetery Ridge at the Angle - the famed ''High Water Mark''.
 
The free part of the Visitor Center might be sparse in ACW militaria, but housed in the same building is the Cyclorama and a fantastic ACW Museum. Now those attractions are not free, so maybe someone has been skipping them on their visits to the battlefield. :wink2:

I visit Gettysburg twice a year for the most part, I normally drop 15.00 and do the full tour once a year, my main purpose is to see the panorama, it's spectacular and they've done a lot of work to it. I make a point of "donating" 10.00 to the person who does the panorama presentation once it's over so I can stick around once all the house lights come up and the tourists stampede out of the building to see it in all it's glory for several minutes.

So there you go.
 
Hi all,

No Chicago for me this year but even better a East Coast trip in late June with a few days to Gettysburg and Fort Delaware to retrace my 3 time Great-grandfather's footsteps and the 55th of Virginia, I've never had the pleasure of getting to Gettysburg so if any members here have any suggestions as to what to see, do, stay etc. While at Gettysburg or Fort Delaware please share your ideas, thanks in advance for any help.

Your ancestor, as a member of the 55th VA, was part of Brockenbrough's Brigade that fought on July 1, and July 3, 1863. During the Confederate attack toward the McPherson Farm (the barn still stands although refurbished over the years), Brockenbrough encountered Col. Stone's Bucktail Brigade positioned in and around the farm buildings. The assault came from the west toward the barn. After the union troops were pushed back through the town to the east and solidified their position, the battle continued on the second day in other areas of the battlefield. Brockenbrough's Brigade was located during this time on Seminary Ridge, southwest of the town. The Confederate line along that ridge continued south and was a jump-off point for the Confederate attack toward Little Round Top, Devil's Den, Wheatfield, and Peach Orchard. However, being farther north on that ridge, Brockenbrough's Brigade was not involved in that action. On July 3, the unit played a supporting role in what has been referred to as Pickett's Charge (Longstreet's Corps), the culmination of the battle. Being part of A.P. Hill's Corps, it advanced in support on the left of Pickett's Division along with other supporting regiments. It reached a position about halfway and was subjected to union fire that caused it to flee precipitously before the attack really reached its climax. If you go along South Confederate Avenue, you will see markers for Brockenbrough's Brigade that included the 55th VA. If you look west from that position you will notice a housing development in the distance. Brockenbrough advanced in that direction toward the union position on Cemetery Ridge, roughly 9/10ths of mile from where you stand. As mentioned previously, Brockenbrough's men never made it all the way there, however.
 
Thanks Gettysburg,

I've always had mixed emotions on my great-grandfather's taking part in the Civil War, I do not know his reasons for joining the Confederate cause?? Was he in favor of slavery?? Was he just a true Virginian that felt he had to fight for his state?? Many questions that I have no answers for, I know he saw many a battles and terrible sights throughout most of the war be it on the battlefields or in a prison camp, very thankful he was a fighter and survivor!!! Other wise I wouldn't be typing this!!!!
 
My family and I like staying at the 1863 Inn of Gettysburg. It is a great location. Close enough to walk to downtown and other parts. Walking around town in the evening is always very pleasant after the sun goes down. They have a lot of interesting "Ghost Tours" that are very entertaining. There is a lot to see and do, I am sure you will have a fantastic time.
 

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