Hinton Hunt ID needed and one more unknown single figure (1 Viewer)

[captainsimos]

I'm back, the first two are Hinton Hunt and I think they are French Grenadiers, but they have some differeces in there coats, hats and pants. The single figure I think I found to be Berg: Infantry Regimental Pioneer, 1812, but the book I am using has several similar uniforms, it is hard to be sure. No label on this one, so not sure of the maker.
I wish I could say I am near the end, but I just found another 15 lbs of soldiers, so I have a long way to go. Thanks in advance for the help.
Simos

 

[theBaron]

Hi, Simos, I think you're right that they're Hinton Hunt. Though similar in style, Hinton's style was a little rougher than Stadden's was. As for the subjects, I couldn't say. The sapper is definitely a sapper, but whether he's from the French army or from one of the "allied" armies, like Berg, I couldn't say specifically.

Prost!
Brad

 

[captainsimos]

Looks like the Sapper is France Imperial Guard 2nd Conscrit Chassuers, 1810. I found him in another book I have. The hat is exactly the same and the plume is the same red over green. Would still like to know who the figure was made by.
Simos

 

[DETHKOR]

They are all Hinton Hunt

 

[DMNamiot]

I believe the infantryman on the right with the yellow collar is an Voltigeur or light infantry skirmisher.

Dave

 

[Obee]

I believe the infantryman on the right with the yellow collar is an Voltigeur or light infantry skirmisher.

Dave

Yes, Voltigeuer of the Imperial Guard is correct, but not sure about the Berg ID..... I'll do some more investigation.

Not a Sappeur Chasseur of Imperial Guard because his bearskin has a red patch and grenade, but chasseurs had none.
Also not quite right colours as his turnback should be red, while is gloves should be white.

White turnbacks were worn with line infantry so could be a line infantry grenadier sappeur, but would also need a red plume, no green.

Maybe a while repaint would be the best ???

This is a Stadden Guard Sappeur of mine

and a couple of Hinton Hunt line infantry figures

John

 

[captainsimos]

Yes, Voltigeuer of the Imperial Guard is correct, but not sure about the Berg ID..... I'll do some more investigation.

Not a Sappeur Chasseur of Imperial Guard because his bearskin has a red patch and grenade, but chasseurs had none.
Also not quite right colours as his turnback should be red, while is gloves should be white.

White turnbacks were worn with line infantry so could be a line infantry grenadier sappeur, but would also need a red plume, no green.

Maybe a while repaint would be the best ???

This is a Stadden Guard Sappeur of mine

and a couple of Hinton Hunt line infantry figures

John

I can't see any of the figures you mentioned in your post?
Simos

 

[captainsimos]

The scan below is from Military Uniforms of he World in Color and the figure in 190 is the one that appears to me to be the figure of the sapper I submitted below. Any comments or corrections to my observation, as always will be appreciated.
Simos

 

[DMNamiot]

The plume in his hat is certainly Chasseurs but the glove colors are wrong. I wonder if this is a partial repaint. Still I’d say that you have a pretty close ID so run with it.

Dave

 

[Obee]

I can't see any of the figures you mentioned in your post?
Simos

How about these ???





JOhn

 

[Obee]

The plume in his hat is certainly Chasseurs but the glove colors are wrong. I wonder if this is a partial repaint. Still I’d say that you have a pretty close ID so run with it.

Dave

Yes, partial repaint will work, BUT the hat will need filler on the top to cover the red patch and grenade that comes with a Grenadiers had.

Chasseurs were all fur.

Here is a Chasseur Sappeur on the right ....



JOhn

 

[Obee]

Yes, partial repaint will work, BUT the hat will need filler on the top to cover the red patch and grenade that comes with a Grenadiers had.

Chasseurs were all fur.

John

Here is a back view to show what I mean about the different hats with and without the grenade patch.



John

 

[DMNamiot]

That’s a good point John I guess I was to focused on the gloves I didn’t notice the back of the hat photo. It definitely needs to be filled in
Dave

 

[captainsimos]

Thanks for all the comments. Of course I am now more confused than when I started. It appears that whoever painted the sapper miss a few of the finer points or just didn't follow the paint instructions. Thanks to everone for the help.
Simos