ID question, 54m, somem lead, some plastic (1 Viewer)

[Rediarmor]

I saw these tonight, and bought them, I have done no research. I know some of them, but would like any info you have on the others please:-

 

[Rediarmor]

I bought these tonight, and have done no research. I know some of them, but would like any info you have on the others please:-

The line at the back are all plastic, two & three quarter inches in height. I have no idea who made these, or the age, but the detail id brilliant.

Front rank, from the left is a Turkey from Johillco I assume. The next two are 54mm ones from "Perry" which I know nothing about.

The last two 54mm, are what I am most excited about, I am thinking Stadden??? Please please please confirm that for me someone!

 

[theBaron]

Nice find! They'd all come through a restoration quite nicely.

Could the turkey be a Britians piece, too? I have two of those at home, and I thought they were, but I could be wrong.

I agree that the two figures at the end of the front row are Staddens, Napoleonic, the one looks like a British officer, and the one at the end looks like a Prussian line soldier.

Prost!
Brad

 

[Rediarmor]

The Perrys:-

 

[Rediarmor]

Thanks for the prompt reply, yes I remember Britains did the Turkeys too, good point. There is a lot of original paint on it, so I won't be stripping it down, so may never know.
Thanks for the confirmation of the Staddens, I am as please as Punch with them. Want to know what I paid for the lot?

 

[Rediarmor]

Re: ID question, 54m, some lead, some plastic

A better pic (well closer anyway) of the Staddens:-

 

[thebritfarmer]

The turkey is Britains. I think the trademark is in the tail feathers.

 

[Rediarmor]

Thanks Britfarmer, I have had my magnifying glass out, and yes it's obvious. Thanks.

 

[King's Man]

The last two figures aren't Staddens, but Lassets. The Prussian is a flag bearer with the flag covering wrapped around his body. He appears to have lost his flag. The British figure is a Lasset figure of the 52nd Foot officer, era 1815.

King's Man

 

[Rediarmor]

Thank you King's Man, I appreciate the info. I don't suppose you have a pic of the flag bearer? I intend restoring, so would need to know what the flag looked like. The British Officer has his right hand missing, any idea what he would have been holding? I don't know anything about Lassets, are they worth anything?

 

[King's Man]

You are welcome.

I own both figures, purchased new when Lasset was in business. Both figures were assembled and primed, but the painting was up to you. The British officer wasn’t holding anything in his right hand. The Prussian flag was just a pole with a sheet of foil.

As to price, no telling, I would think that would be based on how well they had been painted or could be repainted.
The now gone Soldier Shop in New York was selling a new unpainted foot figure in 1974 for five dollars .

King’s Man

 

[Rediarmor]

Thanks for that. Any chance of you posting a couple of pics? The British Officer's fingers are missing, nice to know I don't have to make a map or dispatches for him (although I still might). I don't know Lasset at all, they were just available as kits then? The Prussian flag will be easy, as long as I have a picture to copy

 

[theBaron]

"Lasset" is one of the common names for figures sculpted by John Tassel. He collaborated with Charles Stadden/Tradition, in producing 54mm (really, 56mm), figures, and the styles are so similar, using the same tinplate bases, that the figures are often mistaken for one another, as we have done here. That is to say, they're almost interchangeable.

To give you a further idea of the comparison between Stadden and Lasset on the same subject, here are 2 side-by-side comparisons. A pair of Prussian Jäger from the Seven Years War, Lasset (left) and Stadden (right):



and a pair of grenadiers, Stadden (left) and Lasset (right):



Generally--very generally speaking--Lassets are a little more graceful, or a little less stocky, than Staddens, in the sculpting and proportions.

Tassel also sculpted figures and sold them under Series 77 (in 77mm, hence the name). I'd have to look up the article on him in Garratt's "World Encyclopedia", to list more of his resume. As far as I know, he's still alive.

Regarding the value, Lassets go for similar prices to Staddens. For your figures, I would have looked to get them at $5 each, but $10 apiece is a good purchase price for foot figures, and $20 is a good price for a mounted figure. For finished figures, of course, the price would be expected to start higher, say, $25 for a foot figure, $50 for a mounted figure, and to increase based on the quality of the finish, and whether the painter is someone who was well-known.

As far as replacing the flag is concerned, the flags were very simple, a piece of brass rod with a piece of brass rod soldered to it, just as on the Stadden figures. Often, the base of the staff was secured to the base in a blob of solder. If this were my figure, I'd get a piece of brass rod and make the flag with thin metal foil, like lead foil or kitchen foil. I also use candy wrappers for this. The wrapper for a miniature Reese's peanut butter cup, for example, when folded into quarters, is almost exactly the right dimensions in 54mm for a Prussian infantry color. I fold the foil over the brass rod and use a little CA glue between the layers, to attach it and laminate them.

Hope that all helps, prosit!
Brad

 

[Rediarmor]

Thanks Brad, yes that helps a great deal. The Prussian flag will be a joy to do, and I intend adding as little paint as possible. Much appreciated.

 

[Rediarmor]

I have done the repairs on the Cidadel figure, these were designed by Alan Perry, and have some lovely detail. I have identified them from a 1982 catalogue, as DA5403 Carolingian Officer, and DA5401 Rus Warrior (the one I repaired). These need just a small amount of paint and they are done.