Is This A Turning Point In The Hobby? (2 Viewers)

[HAWKEYE]

So Much Beautiful Product, But What Does A Guy Do That Has Been Trying To Collect All Of It, Let Alone Where Do You Display It All. My Questions Are Many. On The Good Side There Are Probably More People Coming Into The Hobby, But I Can Also See People Having So Many Choices Between Ranges Or The Multitude Of New Wwii Sets That It Can Almost Put A Damper On The Whole Thing . Is Andy Trying To Make So You Only Buy King And Country? And Then What About Diehards Like Me That Have Been Collecting For 10 Yrs Who Can" T Possibly Stay Caught Up. Does Anybody Have Any Advice?

 

[Njja]

I would collect what I like, have a budget that I follow, and strongly consider

King & Country.

Here is my reasoning, most of us have other responsibilites we must consider.

King & Country makes a Top Quality Product, reasonabily priced with a history

of Positive Growth in the secondary market.

Why is that important? You may change your mind, on what you like, or see

a new Series you would like to switch to. If the items you had purchased had

little value you could suffer quite a loss, and harsh looks from the wife!

While not guaranteed, or suggested by King & Country (who encourage there

customers to simply buy what they like) immediate history has shown a gain

in value of reciently retired pieces from their line. This should provide you with

some piece of mind if you decide to switch Series, or Era's you collect.

As for why so many Series, are being done?

It is simply my opinion, that Andy listens to his customers, has a vivid

imagination, and has lots of fields he would like to explore....given the support

of his customer base, and limited only by his ideas.

This is only my opinion, and was offered in response to the above questions

asked.

Njja

 

[HAWKEYE]

You Make Some Great Points And Do Not Get Me Wrong , I Love All The New Product, But When You Speak Of A Secondary Market With Finite Dollars Available What Affect Will This Have On The Resale Market?

 

[DMNamiot]

Hawkeye,

Unless you are an investment type dont worry too much about the resale market. Now if you collect of the sake of collecting then follow some of the advice of Njja and collect what you like. I collect alot of stuff and recently decided I would focus on one or two eras so I dont break the bank and fill the room to bursting with things I only picked up because they were done by a particular company. So focus is the only advice I would give you.

Best of luck

Dave

 

[Njja]

You Make Some Great Points And Do Not Get Me Wrong , I Love All The New Product, But When You Speak Of A Secondary Market With Finite Dollars Available What Affect Will This Have On The Resale Market?

Hawkeye:

Who can tell?

No true collector gets into this for the money! A point many fail to see!

We buy what we like, what interests us. Most of the time, it has little value

if it ever appears on the secondary market. With a few exceptions, take a

look at Conte. To make a point, I have many Conte Pieces....Church, Priory, a

number of pirate sets, I like they products.....but the average set is not going

any place!

King & Country and the secondary market is a phoneomen, very difficult to

explain. To the average collector, not in it for the money, it is simply a

bonus.

No one should enter this with the idea of making money! Period!

Do it soley for the fun of it!

Therefore, you really don't have to worry about the resale market!

I offered to the collector, the simple idea that should a King & Country

collector wish to switch series, or era's he collects he might be able to do so

with no loss.

I am not offering any advice for someone looking to make money, for that

you need a business plan, capital, and a stiff constitution.

For myself, I do not do this for the money, I don't need it.

I maintain my collection at a positive cash equity, should something happen

to me (while tooling along on my Harley) I don't want the fam to be

concerned when they pass it along.

Njja

 

[boot51]

John, what's happening to you, drugs, head injury, satanic cult? First you agree with me on the Ebay/dealer soaking the collector issue, now you're saying "buy it because you like it, not because it might increase in value". Com'on John,..... is it a spiritual awakening or new medication. Whatever it is I really like this NEW John.

Fred

 

[Njja]

John, what's happening to you, drugs, head injury, satanic cult? First you agree with me on the Ebay/dealer soaking the collector issue, now you're saying "buy it because you like it, not because it might increase in value". Com'on John,..... is it a spiritual awakening or new medication. Whatever it is I really like this NEW John.

Fred

Fred:

Well, thats nice, I have had many people explain my actions, and get it

wrong, so I thought I might offer my thoughts in answer to Hawkeyes

question.

If I had my choice, I would like all the Forum members to have fun, add to

their collections and support each other.

I have often received advice, and support from members, and enjoy giving

any assistance I can when asked.

Njja

 

[boot51]

Fred:

Well, thats nice, I have had many people explain my actions, and get it

wrong, so I thought I might offer my thoughts in answer to Hawkeyes

question.

If I had my choice, I would like all the Forum members to have fun, add to

their collections and support each other.

I have often received advice, and support from members, and enjoy giving

any assistance I can when asked.

Njja

It's usually pretty darn good advice too, John. Thanks

Besides, anyone who includes Steve McQueen and his Shelbyized Mustang in his post is okay in my book! (How'd you know??????)

Fred

 

[Njja]

Fred:

Who doesn't like Steve?

Have you seen the new GT500 Cobra? I have been looking hard at them...

but I'm not about to go $25K over list!

I asked my friendly Ford Dealer his price for one due in.....his reply

"How much do you want to spend"

While my Ford Stock sits at $7. Ford took in 166 Billion........and

managed to lose 6 Billion??????

Still.......its a great car!!

Njja

 

[jazzeum]

One of the great movies of all time. I've seen it at least 100 times.

 

[Rob]

Hawkeye:

Who can tell?

No true collector gets into this for the money! A point many fail to see!

We buy what we like, what interests us. Most of the time, it has little value

if it ever appears on the secondary market. With a few exceptions, take a

look at Conte. To make a point, I have many Conte Pieces....Church, Priory, a

number of pirate sets, I like they products.....but the average set is not going

any place!

King & Country and the secondary market is a phoneomen, very difficult to

explain. To the average collector, not in it for the money, it is simply a

bonus.

No one should enter this with the idea of making money! Period!

Do it soley for the fun of it!

Therefore, you really don't have to worry about the resale market!

I offered to the collector, the simple idea that should a King & Country

collector wish to switch series, or era's he collects he might be able to do so

with no loss.

I am not offering any advice for someone looking to make money, for that

you need a business plan, capital, and a stiff constitution.

For myself, I do not do this for the money, I don't need it.

I maintain my collection at a positive cash equity, should something happen

to me (while tooling along on my Harley) I don't want the fam to be

concerned when they pass it along.

Njja

My collection is entirely for the fun of it and the joy of collecting coupled with my insatiable thirst for WW1/WW2.I have only ever sold one set of K&C and that was only because they were a little older than the rest and i didn't feel they fitted in.I wouldn't dream of selling any of it and the only profit made will be when i pass away and my lovely wife can make a nice little return on my collection.I undersand people sell stuff all the time,but i guess i'm also a bit of a completist and don't like to let stuff go(which makes space an issue!)

One of the things i love about this forum is the adice/heads up you get from fellow collectors,its really helpful and refreshing.So a big thanks to all out there that help all us out there.

Rob

 

[Capitolron]

My collection is entirely for the fun of it and the joy of collecting coupled with my insatiable thirst for WW1/WW2.I have only ever sold one set of K&C and that was only because they were a little older than the rest and i didn't feel they fitted in.I wouldn't dream of selling any of it and the only profit made will be when i pass away and my lovely wife can make a nice little return on my collection.I undersand people sell stuff all the time,but i guess i'm also a bit of a completist and don't like to let stuff go(which makes space an issue!)

One of the things i love about this forum is the adice/heads up you get from fellow collectors,its really helpful and refreshing.So a big thanks to all out there that help all us out there.

Rob

I believe that everyone has a right to sell their collection if they want to and change the direction of their collection. I personally have done that over the years - selling extra figures and doing away with entire collections - so I could take the money made on ebay and buy other figures that are more interesting to me.

Njja is 100% right when he states its a buyers market - If you want it - you can buy it and if the seller can get a price to support his hobby - more power to him. Ebay is great. It gives everyone around the world a chance to buy items that they might not have any access to through a lack of dealers.

Even here in Washington, DC - there are no dealers. So to buy items you either have to drive to Gettysburg or Frederickburg or wait for a toy soldier show or go to Ebay. Which one is the easier?

The turning point in the hobby is (and will be) when people lose the great spirit of collecting like Rob. When the joy is gone - so shall this collectors market. But, personally I dont seeing that happen anytime in the near or distant future.

Whew - thats a lot on a Saturday Morning and I havent had my first cup of coffee.

Ron

 

[Rob]

I believe that everyone has a right to sell their collection if they want to and change the direction of their collection. I personally have done that over the years - selling extra figures and doing away with entire collections - so I could take the money made on ebay and buy other figures that are more interesting to me.

Njja is 100% right when he states its a buyers market - If you want it - you can buy it and if the seller can get a price to support his hobby - more power to him. Ebay is great. It gives everyone around the world a chance to buy items that they might not have any access to through a lack of dealers.

Even here in Washington, DC - there are no dealers. So to buy items you either have to drive to Gettysburg or Frederickburg or wait for a toy soldier show or go to Ebay. Which one is the easier?

The turning point in the hobby is (and will be) when people lose the great spirit of collecting like Rob. When the joy is gone - so shall this collectors market. But, personally I dont seeing that happen anytime in the near or distant future.

Whew - thats a lot on a Saturday Morning and I havent had my first cup of coffee.

Ron

I agree,with things the way they are going right now the hobby will get stronger and stronger.I suppose one of the great things about ebay is if you missed something and you really want it,you can normally get it.This happened to me with the Matilda,i desperately wanted it and was happy to pay over the odds to get it.

Rob