Jazzeum's "Trophy" Figures (1 Viewer)

[ucla1967]

Brad just won three "Trophy" figures on eBay today. I hope he knows this, but the figures in question are not Trophy. They are from Imperial's Boer War series, specifically, set Nos. 25a & b, Black Watch Pipes & Drums, 1900. Which brings me to the question: Why do sellers misrepresent what they are selling? The seller clearly doesn't know what he is talking about, so why say they are Trophy. I see this all too often on eBay. The sellers who say they have Britains, I usually give some slack because some neophites use that term generically for all toy soldiers. But the others.....

 

[jazzeum]

This seller often doesn't know exactly what he's selling so I'm not surprised. As far as their being Trophy, I didn't really think they were, just happened to like their band aspect and the price was rather low.

Maybe you should also mention, in the interest of full disclosure, that I outbid you on this item, and there is a little sour grapes here.

 

[The Lt.]

I'm sure those of you who are checking EBAY for particular items may have noticed figures by Trophy from the Zulu War period appearing in pairs and in some cases doctored by adding to their bases and having the starting bid at not quite $20.00 each. It''s a shame as to what is being done with sets being broken up along with the misleading info being furnished on figures from other sources be misrepresented. If you by chance are looking to add a certin figure or figures feel free to pay the price but if looking to add a complete set make sure it's complete and comes with it's orginal box. It's amazing as to what some are doing to the sets and how their presenting them.......The Lt.

 

[kilted vampire]

I saw those figures and thought pretty much the same thing. They do not really know what they have. They looked nice though. Congratulations on the purchase.

 

[ucla1967]

This seller often doesn't know exactly what he's selling so I'm not surprised. As far as their being Trophy, I didn't really think they were, just happened to like their band aspect and the price was rather low.

Maybe you should also mention, in the interest of full disclosure, that I outbid you on this item, and there is a little sour grapes here.

Brad,

No sour grapes here. I actually have three sets with their original boxes of set No. 25a and three sets of No. 25b (one without a box). I always try to pick up loose figures from Imperial as "spares." If I had really needed them, I believe I would have out bid you by a country mile. BUT the most important thing is that you can see that King & Country is not the only game in town and can appreciate other manufacturers products even if they are glossy and 1/32 scale. I was concerned because I thought you might be buying something (i.e., Trophy) and you weren't.

 

[ucla1967]

I saw those figures and thought pretty much the same thing. They do not really know what they have. They looked nice though. Congratulations on the purchase.

My thought was if they don't know what they have why call them Trophy?

 

[jazzeum]

Brad,

No sour grapes here. I actually have three sets with their original boxes of set No. 25a and three sets of No. 25b (one without a box). I always try to pick up loose figures from Imperial as "spares." If I had really needed them, I believe I would have out bid you by a country mile. BUT the most important thing is that you can see that King & Country is not the only game in town and can appreciate other manufacturers products even if they are glossy and 1/32 scale. I was concerned because I thought you might be buying something (i.e., Trophy) and you weren't.

Mike,

My apologies for over reacting. Since I have started to collect King and Country glossy (which is growing), I have come appreciate other manufacturers as I have added some Beau Geste, Little Legion and now a couple of Imperial (which I had been thinking about adding lately).

I am sure you would have outbid if you really wanted this set

Regards,

 

[ucla1967]

Mike,

My apologies for over reacting. Since I have started to collect King and Country glossy (which is growing), I have come appreciate other manufacturers as I have added some Beau Geste, Little Legion and now a couple of Imperial (which I had been thinking about adding lately).

I am sure you would have outbid if you really wanted this set

Regards,

Brad,

No appologies necessary, but thanks. You are a gentleman. I hope you might start collecting Imperial and Trophy because they are both outstanding examples of traditional glossy toy soldiers. If you subscribe to Toy Soldier & Model Figure magazine, look for the article in the next issue on Imperial.

 

[damian]

Gentlemen
I think this requires some pictures to be posted
Regards
As always
Damian Clarke

 

[jazzeum]

Gentlemen
I think this requires some pictures to be posted
Regards
As always
Damian Clarke

Damian,

Here's the link for the auction .

 

[DMNamiot]

Hi Brad,

Very cool pick up I wish I was home and not travelling those were a very good find! Glad also to see you expanding into the Glossy arena! We'll have to chat about this when I am home again and have a high speed connectio.

All the best

Dave

 

[jazzeum]

Hello Dave,

Thanks. I'm looking forward to getting them. Talk to you when you get back. I've got in a bid on some Trophy (hopefully, they really are!) items from Vectis but I don't think I'll get them.

Regards,

 

[jazzeum]

I received my Imperial figures today and they are beautifully painted and sculpted. Very nice figures.

However, I'm curious about the shoulder of the drummer. If you look at the link for the auction , the way it was assembled seems odd to me. Is this normal?

 

[ucla1967]

I received my Imperial figures today and they are beautifully painted and sculpted. Very nice figures.

However, I'm curious about the shoulder of the drummer. If you look at the link for the auction , the way it was assembled seems odd to me. Is this normal?

Yes it is normal. David Cowe, by design, wanted to have his figures "with arms attached the old way." Most Imperial figures have arms that move. It is probably the only thing that I don't like about the figures, but I got use to them that way. The only other problem I have with Imperial is the small size of the bases, especially on the Sudanese and Fuzzy Wuzzies, which fall over every time we have an earthquake. Take a good look at the fine line painting on the figures, that is one of the main things he is known for.

 

[jrsteel]

Brad that's a great find and for that price. Wish I would have seen them. The newer Imperial, well least the Napoleonics I have, don't have the arms attached like that. Mike is right. The fine line painting is incredible. I don't know how they were able to do some of the painting on the Napoleonic figures.

 

[kilted vampire]

Brad that's a great find and for that price. Wish I would have seen them. The newer Imperial, well least the Napoleonics I have, don't have the arms attached like that. Mike is right. The fine line painting is incredible. I don't know how they were able to do some of the painting on the Napoleonic figures.

Great price . I do not think that I saw those until now. I usually do not miss that. Their painting abilities come from years of practise and refinement.

 

[ucla1967]

I received my Imperial figures today and they are beautifully painted and sculpted. Very nice figures.

However, I'm curious about the shoulder of the drummer. If you look at the link for the auction , the way it was assembled seems odd to me. Is this normal?

Interestingly, while many of Imperial's figures have a movable arm with the visible pin system, others do not. They use an invisible internal pin which is pressure fit in such a way that the arms can move. Some related sets have both systems. For example, in set No. 39 - 17th Lancers, 1879, all three lancers have invisible pins while the officer, single figure set, No. 40, uses the visible pin. Ditto with set Nos. 35 and 36 - 1st Dragoon Guards, 1879.