Jim Brown at 80 (1 Viewer)

He was the greatest RB, ever. He was all but unstoppable and he went out at the peak of his game. an't tell you all how many times I watched him just bowl over people. -- Al
 
Probably one of the greatest all around athletes of all time.....football, basketball, Lacrosse and anything else he tried. Muhammad Ali said he could have been a champion boxer.

Unfortunately he was also a womanizer and woman abuser with numerous charges of assault and rape. Not my kind of hero......
 
After every carry he would get up slow so you never knew if he was hurt on the play or not. Great football player not a great man.
Gary
 
Maybe not a great man, judging by some of the trouble he got into, but I can't say that I would want to be friends with some of the athletes on the teams that I follow. On the other hand, if you saw the program, several of the players who were on the program said that their lives and careers were influenced and immeasurably touched by him. That's quite a testimonial. None of us are 100 % pure either.
 
That clip in context was the funniest thing I've seen on this forum in some time.:smile2:

The first thing that came to mind after watching the clip, black lives matter.
Gary
 
It is amazing how little I know about athletes that do not play in the social media age. Now you know if your favorite player gets a parking ticket, how much the fine will be and when it is due. Back then you were lucky if you knew the athletes hometown.
 
Probably one of the greatest all around athletes of all time.....football, basketball, Lacrosse and anything else he tried. Muhammad Ali said he could have been a champion boxer.

Unfortunately he was also a womanizer and woman abuser with numerous charges of assault and rape. Not my kind of hero......

Gents,

Yeah, wouldn't call him a "hero" by no means. My mom is my hero. But, he is definitely an old school-no excuse player. He excelled scholastically in his studies and wasn't a dummy. At his age now he could probably ace the Wunderlic test in his sleep. He played more than one sport in college (Lacrosse) and he became famous during a very difficult time in our country's history. He, like many other black athletes endured racism both on and off the field and at 80 made it through. He earned his place in history and if you watch the video has the hands to prove it. In fact, Franco and Lynn have the exact same type of hands...gnarled, crooked and boney.

By no means is he a perfect man. Heck, MLK had a affairs, JFK was womanizer as well and J. Edgar Hoover? Oh good lord man. My take on physically assaulting women? It just seems to never end and to me you are less than a man to hit a woman. So, there.

John from Texas
 
There is no doubt that this man was a great football player and gifted athlete. I remember that Sports Illustrated magazine once featured an article and photos of their picks for most physically fit athletes....Jim Brown and Bobby Hull were their top choices. I loved watching the Cleveland Browns, even though a NY Giants fan, just to see JB run over people. Of course I also enjoyed when
Sam Huff, Giants linebacker, tackled him hard.

Football is a violent game.....tackle, block, hit, rush, blitz, sack.....and maybe it takes a certain aggressive/violent mentality to be a great player. Leaving that on the ball field surely must be a challenge for some. I remember my coaches pre-game pep talks when I played in High School.....hit em so they won't get up, if you don't come out bloody you didn't play your hardest, hit em so hard that their mothers will feel the pain! This was back in the sixties and I hope that has changed.

To me a great athlete doesn't just show his skills in the sport. He or she must demonstrate moral courage, civic responsibility and respect for other human beings. You are right that no one is perfect and being in the spotlight is extremely challenging. But if you realize that you have "issues" and don't address them and try to change then your luster as a great athlete is diminished.

There are plenty of gifted athletes who are also great human beings.
 
Sorry but some of you are mixing up great athlete with great human being. The two are distinct and separate.

I'm sure there are athletes who I watch and hope do well who I would not want to know or have as a friend. When somebody is on the field playing for my team, I hope they do well and that's where it ends. How they act in their personal life is up to them. I hope Matt Harvey wins 20 games this year and lead the Mets to a championship. Off the field, he's a prima donna and probably a bit of a jerk. It would be nice if he were a model citizen but that has nothing to do with why I root him for him on the field.

Jim Brown was one of the greates athletes in the last 60 years. Why don't we leave it at that.
 
Yes, a talented athlete but its just hard for me to venerate a man.....6' 2" and 235 pounds, who beats on women half his size.
I enjoyed watching him play as I did OJ Simpson but in retrospect i find it difficult to separate the athlete from the character of the man.

I'm sure that many would agree to just focus on the athletic accomplishments but again for me
the truly "great" athletes met the challenges on and off the field.
Doesn't mean they have to be Saints....we can forgive things like womanizing, drugs, brawls and being difficult but there is a line that demands a footnote or asterisk
on their legacy. Same goes for business people, entertainers, politicians, etc......


Just my personal opinion and I can understand others differing in their views.
 

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