John Jenkins November Announcements - Club Set - Preview (1 Viewer)

[Sierra]

Good afternoon from a warm and sunny San Francisco Bay Area.

In advance of the new release announcement, which we are hoping will occur later on this week. We thought we would give just a small hint of what coming.

It has been a long while since we have announced any new John Jenkins Club Figures, well this month we are about to announce at least one.

If you are not familiar with the Jenkins Club figures it is very straight forward affair.

John only makes the amount equal to those that have been pre-ordered. So if 532 have been pre-ordered for example, this will be the manufactured number. None are made for stock.

So typically there is a 60 day pre-order period. When this finishes, his dealers submit the pre-orders and this is the production number. About 90 days later the set is sent to the dealers to fulfill the pre-orders. For this figure you will not need to be a member of the collectors club, it is open to all.

What if there is not enough demand for the club figure, then John has the option not to make it and we will inform everyone. So far this has never happened.

So if you like the upcoming club figure, we encourage you to pre-order it from your local dealer, to avoid disappointment and to ensure it is made.

In the series John has produced 12 different club figures. One of my all-time favorites is Club Set #2 Battle On The Monongahela 1755 CHIEF SCAROUYADY. Do you have a favorite?



So we promised a hint of what’s coming, so the new figure will also be from the Battle On The Monongahela. So the question is what figure do you think it is?


Best regards

Mike
Sierra Toy Soldier Company

 

[mikemiller1955]

Mike...I think he is my favorite also...I like his pose...versatile enought for idle time or combat...

 

[RISORGIMENTO]

George Washington

 

[marco55]

George Washington

I agree.
Mark

 

[Combat]

Washington or Gage seem most likely. But since the clue is an Indian how about Pontiac since it's possible that he participated in the Monogahela battle (and went on to even greater fame)?

 

[Sierra]

I do not think it will be Washington, as John has already produced him, set #VM001. But an Indian is a reasonably good bet, but it could also be French.

Mike
Sierra Toy Soldier Company

 

[Fraxinus]

Combat had this idea for a figure and it is a great idea, but unsure how commercial it is:

From a Combat post: "I always wanted John to do a club figure of Madame Drucour firing off a French cannon."

She was the wife of the governor general of Louisbourg, the Canadian city besiged by the British in 1758. Each day during the siege, she toured the artillery batteries defending the cities and fired off 3-rounds at the British positions. She was held in high regard by both the citizens of Louisbourg and the British.

As regards my vote: I think John favors some artwork or photograph as a basis for a figure. So, I am rejecting George Croghan (head colonial guide for the BoM), Pontiac and Gage.

Tempted by Levis (Montcalm's 2nd in command), but voting for a WWI Flyer - Rickenbacker!!! My heart says George in his red coat, but I think that figure would be best as a non-club figure.

As it regards my favorite club figure, I am leaning towards Lt. Jenkins, Virginia Officer -- wonderful pose.

 

[Hatman]

If it's a Frenchman, I hope it's Charles de Langlade, he led some of the tribes and the Coureurs de bois at Monongahela. If it's a Brit, I hope it's Gage. As far as a favourite, I love the Lieutenant Dunbar piece. But then I always have a soft spot in my heart for the redcoat grenadiers!

 

[chalklands]

For this figure you will not need to be a member of the collectors club, it is open to all.

Hi,
Has something changed, or am I mistaken? I thought the Collectors Club special figures were only open to Club Members to purchase? Maybe I've misread the post?

Pete

 

[Fraxinus]

Anyone can order a JJD clubset, not like other companies. No real JJD club similar to Britains or K&C.

 

[chalklands]

Well when did this change occur? According to the JJD website:

"MEMBERS ONLY will be given the opportunity to purchase "SPECIAL CLUB SETS"
There will normally be a 30 DAY PREVIEW PERIOD
After the 30 DAY PREVIEW PERIOD,
the Special Club set will be offered to MEMBERS ONLY"

 

[Combat]

I see club sets for sale in the local toy soldier shops. Anyone can buy them. The only real difference with "club" sets is that they are limited in production number depending on how many are ordered. And when you think about it that's not really a meaningful limit since presumably everyone who wants one will order it. I think this is John's way to split the baby. Make it limited but still widely available. There are some pros and cons to that approach that have been discussed here before.

 

[chalklands]

OK, but what then is the benefit of having a 'collectors club'? I'm not overly concerned about the 'club sets' (although should they be called 'club sets' anymore?). Just wondering that's all? Just a bit mystified to be honest!

 

[Evzone]

I've always thought of members clubs are sort of elitist and given that John's popularity is on the increase he is not in my opinion as big as Britains or K&C. That's not to say in terms of quality but in collectors. So, aren't we 'us chosen few' members of an exclusive club that is collectors of JJD already?

Not wanting to be controversial but I feel pressurised to buy that' exclusive item' also, I applaud John's recent move to avoid limited edition sets. Anyway, I'd love to see 'collectors' editions from the SCW for a change, such as Ernest Hemingway, Sam Wild, the last commander of the British battalion of the International Brigade or Frank Tinker, the American born pilot who flew a P I-16 for the Republicans with 8 kills.

 

[Combat]

OK, but what then is the benefit of having a 'collectors club'? I'm not overly concerned about the 'club sets' (although should they be called 'club sets' anymore?). Just wondering that's all? Just a bit mystified to be honest!

I think the benefit to collectors is that we get "personality" figures that might not otherwise be made because John would be uncertain about how they would sell and not expect to sell multiples to individual collectors as can be done with marching or fighting sets. He is guaranteed to get a certain threshold number of sales before producing. And I believe he takes collector requests into consideration in determining which personalities get produced. In theory, you did have to buy the annual club member figure in order to purchase the club figures for that year but maybe so much time has gone past that it is difficult to track who is still a member or not. I doubt many dealers even kept track and simply placed orders as they were received. That is just my own speculation. I don't have any inside info.

 

[chalklands]

Hi Combat,
Yes you make valid points, and I don't disagree with them.
Personally I like the concept of a 'collectors club', and I like the opportunity to buy sets/figures that are not on general sale, although I do admit that they are often available through dealers, so that does dilute the benefits of belonging to a collectors club somewhat. Maybe the volume doesn't warrant limiting production to just club members...I don't know. Maybe John has other plans for the collectors club. At the end of the day any sets are welcome, whether they are called 'collectors club sets' or not.

Anyhow, looking forward to the next releases......


Pete

 

[chalklands]

I've always thought of members clubs are sort of elitist and given that John's popularity is on the increase he is not in my opinion as big as Britains or K&C. That's not to say in terms of quality but in collectors. So, aren't we 'us chosen few' members of an exclusive club that is collectors of JJD already?

Not wanting to be controversial but I feel pressurised to buy that' exclusive item' also, I applaud John's recent move to avoid limited edition sets. Anyway, I'd love to see 'collectors' editions from the SCW for a change, such as Ernest Hemingway, Sam Wild, the last commander of the British battalion of the International Brigade or Frank Tinker, the American born pilot who flew a P I-16 for the Republicans with 8 kills.

I agree about SCW sets, however that might make me start collecting that series.......Ahhhhhhh.....Tell my bank manager......

 

[Maj. Duncan Heyward]

Gage or Washington please!

Here's Washington...


and here again in the colonial blue jacket, with Braddock and Robert Ormes


couldn't find an inspirational picture of Gage, anyone?

this order of battle from Kronoscaff? looks like wiki to me.. might offer a few clues?

British Order of Battle
Commander: Major-general Edward Braddock assisted by Lieutenant Robert Orme, Captain Roger Morris (48th Foot) and Lieutenant-colonel George Washington (Virginia Provincials)
Secretary: William Shirley
Deputy Quartermaster-general: Sir John St. Clair
Assistant-deputy Quartermaster-general: Lieutenant Matthew Leslie (44th foot)
Major of brigade: Lieutenant Francis Halkett (44th foot)
Royal Regiment of Artillery (20 men)
Sailors of the Royal Navy (30 men and 2 midshipmen) under Lieutenant Spindelow
Indian Warriors (8 men)
Captain Robert Stewart's Virginia Troop of Horse Rangers (29 men)
44th Halket's Regiment of Foot (450 men)
48th Dunbar's Regiment of Foot (450 men)
Captain Rutherford's New York Independent Companies (50 men)
Captain William Peronee's Virginia Rangers (3 officers, 47 men)
Captain Wagner's Virginia Rangers (3 officers, 45 men)
Captain Adam Steven's Virginia Rangers (3 officers, 48 men)
Captain William Polson's Virginia Carpenters (3 officers, 48 men)
N.B.: the numbers listed represent the effective strength of each unit. During this initial stage of the conflict, the so called Rangers were in fact mere militia.
French Order of Battle
Commander: Captain Daniel-Hyacinthe-Marie Liénard de Beaujeu
Compagnies Franches de la Marine (108 regulars: 36 officers and cadets and 72 soldiers )
Canadian militia (146 men)
Indians (637)

edited to add this, source britishbattles.com

It is not known which Indian chiefs were present on the French side but it is suggested that the Miami chief Pontiac and the Delaware “King” Shingas may have been present. The party of 10 to 16 Iroquois who accompanied the British Force was led by Scarouady (Monocatootha).

 

[mikemiller1955]

in theory...

YES!!!

you do need to join the Collector's Club to purchase a collector's figure...

in theory...

but we all know that isn't the case...

many of us acquired the Chicago Dinner Figure without going to the show...

I'm sure some dealers and collectors speculate on reselling them through the secondary market...I'm sure some dealers purchase multiples for themselves to resell...the benifit of this being by bypassing JJ's rules about not selling his items on Ebay until they are retired...once the Club set is issued...it is automatically retired...so dealers can ask any price they want and still follow John's Ebay policy...

the benifit for John...and this is huge to me...is that every figure produced is immediately sold...pre-ordered and committed...John has no surplus...which I think is brilliant...300-400-500 pieces sold in one fell swoop through pre-orders...no inventory sitting on a shelf in Hong Kong...I always thought this was brilliant...

 

[marco55]

If it's a Frenchman, I hope it's Charles de Langlade, he led some of the tribes and the Coureurs de bois at Monongahela. If it's a Brit, I hope it's Gage. As far as a favourite, I love the Lieutenant Dunbar piece. But then I always have a soft spot in my heart for the redcoat grenadiers!

Langlade for me!^&grin
Mark