Jon-Benet Ramsey Case (1 Viewer)

[gk5717]

Any one been watching all the "documentories" that have been on TV in regards to this case? The two I watched prior to the one that just ended last night point to some outsider as the perp. Although I need to watch the second half of the current one. This one points the finger at the family. My personal belief was a family member is responsible.
Gary

 

[Combat]

Any one been watching all the "documentories" that have been on TV in regards to this case? The two I watched prior to the one that just ended last night point to some outsider as the perp. Although I need to watch the second half of the current one. This one points the finger at the family. My personal belief was a family member is responsible.
Gary

I sort of hate to admit it but I've watched them all. There is kind of an entertainment component to this tragedy but it is nevertheless an interesting case. I thought CBS did an excellent two-part examination of the case this week. An earlier one on A&E was outrageously biased in favor of the family. I don't see any possibility that an intruder would enter a home and spend approximately 30 minutes writing a ransom note in the kitchen on a notepad belonging to the mom. They want to be in and out as quickly as possible. And why bother if they intended to kill her in the home and not kidnap her? The brother is one strange and creepy kid. I never considered it very realistic that he was involved but that makes the most sense to me now after being more familiar with the details. The parents covered up his accidential killing of her to protect him. The father staged the scene in the basement and the mom wrote the note. Crazy since under Colorado law a nine-year old can't be charged with murder. He would have received the treatment that he obviously needed and this whole mess (or at least the ugly aftermath) could have been avoided. It is particularly despicable that the father implicated family friends as suspects if he knew what happened. The police certainly bungled the case from the get go letting folks in the home that morning and letting the body be moved. The DA was even worse allowing the Ramseys to stonewall the entire investigation. They didn't give the first interview until something like 120 days after the crime. A sad story from beginning to end. Unless the Dad fesses up, we may never know the details for sure but I'm reasonably confident the mother or brother was responsible for an accidential killing and the kidnapping was staged by the mom and dad to cover up. Pretty incredible what ugliness can lurk even in the most normal appearing families.

 

[gk5717]

Watched the 2nd episode tonight and like the panel discussed I think the brother accidentily did it. Prior to watching all these shows I thought the brother theory was out of line, not so any more. The Boulder DA is the one I put the blame on.
On another note doesn't John Ramsey look just like Bill O'Reilly?
Gary

 

[The Military Workshop]

I only saw the 2nd half of 2nd episode and was a fairly convincing theory. The videos of the brother were a bit "creepy" and he lacked emotion.

However I noted this from a timeline on Daily Mail web page

March 29, 2001: The Ramseys file an $80 million libel and defamation lawsuit against officers at the Boulder Police Department who agree to an undisclosed settlement in the case
March 31, 2003: Federal judge says evidence is 'more consistent with a theory that an intruder murdered JonBenet than it was with a theory that Mrs. Ramsey did'

Note the Police paid a settlement to the family !^&confuse Then there is the point parents did not give a formal interview until 4 months afterwards.

The kidnap note was mind blowingly non sensical and even more so when you consider her body did not leave the house. Why would an outsider leave a note if she was already dead ?

Then you have grand jury finding there was a case (ie. the cover up) but the DA declined to go ahead and even now invokes grand jury secrecy.

Was an interesting show.

 

[Combat]

The Ramsey family has apparently indicated they will sue CBS. I think that is a bluff. The very last thing they want is to have to answer questions about this case in a court. Just more stonewalling of the type that begin immediately after the murder. The truly sad thing here is that if this was an accidential killing committed by her brother, he would be in the clear because he was only 9 at the time. There was never any need for a cover up. He could clear this entire matter up and lift the shadow of guilt over his parents by providing the authorities with the details.

 

[Jack]

I taught for many years and though not on this scale obviously, the lengths some parents would go to in order to protect their children from being confronted by the consequences of their actions never ceased to amaze me. One friend at another school still dines out on the story of a parent sending his son from the room and saying to the two school leaders 'we are all men of the world. What will it take for this to go away'? I was once accused of having a suspicious and cynical nature because a student lied to me and I went and checked on their story. Even though the student had lied, the view was that by checking on the story I was guilty of (and I kid you not) a breach of trust. Parents come in all shapes and sizes but when it comes to their kids otherwise honest and decent people can sometimes involve themselves in pretty ordinary behaviour.

 

[Combat]

I taught for many years and though not on this scale obviously, the lengths some parents would go to in order to protect their children from being confronted by the consequences of their actions never ceased to amaze me. One friend at another school still dines out on the story of a parent sending his son from the room and saying to the two school leaders 'we are all men of the world. What will it take for this to go away'? I was once accused of having a suspicious and cynical nature because a student lied to me and I went and checked on their story. Even though the student had lied, the view was that by checking on the story I was guilty of (and I kid you not) a breach of trust. Parents come in all shapes and sizes but when it comes to their kids otherwise honest and decent people can sometimes involve themselves in pretty ordinary behaviour.

That is some heavy truth. It has probably always gone on, but the problem seems to have only gotten worse in recent years. I think it is the product of the Internet and the ability of parents to be in constant communication with schools and teachers. Many parents become overly involved and protective of their children and have an unhealthy desire to protect them from any real or imagined hardship. It actually harms children to be overly protective since they grow up without learing they have to take care of themselves. When I was growing up I doubt if my parents even knew where my school was much less communicate daily with teachers about every little issue that arose. The schools are also responsible since I think they now increasingly depend on the parents to do their work for them. If your kid has an issue they are quick to inform you to fix it as though they have no role to play. It is just another small example of how society is going soft and people are caught up in their own lives to the exclusion of anyone else. I've seen many examples where parents will complain about something when it is done by another child that they let pass with their own.