KC and Honour Bound Panthers (1 Viewer)
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Pictures? Please.
zup66
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http://cgi.ebay.it/KING-AND-COUNTRY-HONOUR-BOUND-PANTHER-TANK-1-0F-3
this is an auction on honour bound
this is an auction on honour bound
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Leadmen said:
John, I assume you mean the K&C Panther but I know the HB antennae is taped to the styrofoam inside the box.
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Got mine yesterday. The crew is extremely impressive as you'd expect. I haven't made my mind up completely on the panther yet. I like the battle worn appearance and the stowage really adds character.
However i was a bit disappointed with the zimmerit. It was good in parts but hardly noticeable on the side of the turret where the commander stands.
I also feel the front of the tank looks a bit messy close up. I wish the tow rings were better defined. Basically if you didnt know what they were you wouldn't have a clue they were even there.
On the whole the tracks do look different from previous K&C tanks with the addition of all the grass. This works from a medium distance and looks quite effective but from up close the tracks look kind of messy and undefined.
So for the crew I say 2nd best tank crew yet (after Winter Tiger Crew) 9/10
For the tank i'd say 7 or 8 out of 10. It's a step in a new direction though and hopefully a sign of more improvements to come.
Oh and the box is excellent. I rather like the idea of individual boxes with information on the vehicle or soldiers and photographs of the real thing.
However i was a bit disappointed with the zimmerit. It was good in parts but hardly noticeable on the side of the turret where the commander stands.
I also feel the front of the tank looks a bit messy close up. I wish the tow rings were better defined. Basically if you didnt know what they were you wouldn't have a clue they were even there.
On the whole the tracks do look different from previous K&C tanks with the addition of all the grass. This works from a medium distance and looks quite effective but from up close the tracks look kind of messy and undefined.
So for the crew I say 2nd best tank crew yet (after Winter Tiger Crew) 9/10
For the tank i'd say 7 or 8 out of 10. It's a step in a new direction though and hopefully a sign of more improvements to come.
Oh and the box is excellent. I rather like the idea of individual boxes with information on the vehicle or soldiers and photographs of the real thing.
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I received the K & C Panther yesterday and overall (meaning everything that you receive) I'd give to the edge to K & C. However, with respect to the Panther itself, I'd give the edge to the HB Panther. I've said before it's the total package, not just the vehicle. I have the following observations:
Panther Box
I prefer the K & C box, much more interesting and well put together. The HB box didn't seem as sturdy.
Packaging
There's no comparison here. It's a slam dunk or "clean sheet" in soccer parlance. K & C packages its vehicles much better. With the HB box it's a wonder that they weren't damaged.
Figures
Another clean sheet for K & C.
Tank
There are pluses and minuses here for both. Some of the details that HB has seem better, such as tracks, and (not sure if this is the correct term) the exhausts on the back. My recollection is that they're nicely done and open (i.e. they have the slats open). On the other hand, I found the way K & C uses colors in the Panther (as with its other vehicles) much more interesting than the HB Panther, making it stand out more as a military miniature and collectible. I believe that Andy's use of colors in his products are an important ingredient in the success of King and Country and his experience as a graphic designer has helped King and Country separate itself from the competition.
However, as I've said, it's the total package, not just one component, and I think in that sense the K & C Panther is better. In areas where the detailing on the HB tank may be a little better, I don't think it will be long before we see that reflected in K & C vehicles, as Louis said on a different thread.
Panther Box
I prefer the K & C box, much more interesting and well put together. The HB box didn't seem as sturdy.
Packaging
There's no comparison here. It's a slam dunk or "clean sheet" in soccer parlance. K & C packages its vehicles much better. With the HB box it's a wonder that they weren't damaged.
Figures
Another clean sheet for K & C.
Tank
There are pluses and minuses here for both. Some of the details that HB has seem better, such as tracks, and (not sure if this is the correct term) the exhausts on the back. My recollection is that they're nicely done and open (i.e. they have the slats open). On the other hand, I found the way K & C uses colors in the Panther (as with its other vehicles) much more interesting than the HB Panther, making it stand out more as a military miniature and collectible. I believe that Andy's use of colors in his products are an important ingredient in the success of King and Country and his experience as a graphic designer has helped King and Country separate itself from the competition.
However, as I've said, it's the total package, not just one component, and I think in that sense the K & C Panther is better. In areas where the detailing on the HB tank may be a little better, I don't think it will be long before we see that reflected in K & C vehicles, as Louis said on a different thread.
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zup66 said:yes, some pictures of k&c panther close a honour bound just to see the differences between the two models
what is the material of honour bound models?
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I believe they are polystone with metal attachments. They weigh a lot more than the KC tanks. There is a discussion on the HB thread under "Other Manufacturers."
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Judge for yourself
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More pics.
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Last of pics. What do you guys think?
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One thing I wish the HB Panther had is the various equipment, helmets, etc. that is on the K & C tanks. That gives the tank it's realism so to speak. One idea might be to use the K & C figures on the HB tank.
Although it's natural to make the comparison, it's also a little unfair as K & C hasn't had a chance to react to what HB has done. It will be interesting to see after they do.
Thanks for posting those Carlos.
Although it's natural to make the comparison, it's also a little unfair as K & C hasn't had a chance to react to what HB has done. It will be interesting to see after they do.
Thanks for posting those Carlos.
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My opinion:
KC figures remain the best sculpted and painted in the industry. What else is new? It’s my firm belief that future tracked vehicles in the next 6-12 months will be equal or superior to HB and NMA. It sometimes takes that long to retool but Andy is likely to surprise us there too.
Andy impresses me as a guy that doesn’t kick back and watch the market pass him. He has the market loyalty and critical mass in terms of finances and production capacity to challenge any market competition. Watch for a quantum leap in his tracked vehicles very soon.
That being said, kudos to HB for their first foray into this market space; they hit a real HOME RUN! Only their figures lag behind KC’s in terms of quality in this set comparison. Again this is my opinion.
HB Panther details are superb from the tracks, grille work, armor, antenna, vents, rear exhaust pipes, front tow rings, and even the wheels. Surprisingly not only is the HB panther heavy but it’s a little bit larger too than the KC Panther.
Frankly, I'm proud to have both tanks in my collection. It's like comparing a Lexus to a BMW, it's matter of taste.
I remain excited to see future release from both companies. Man, those KC figures are cool! Yes Brad, the KC figures workout great with the HB Panthers.
Happy collecting and keep having fun,
Carlos
KC figures remain the best sculpted and painted in the industry. What else is new? It’s my firm belief that future tracked vehicles in the next 6-12 months will be equal or superior to HB and NMA. It sometimes takes that long to retool but Andy is likely to surprise us there too.
Andy impresses me as a guy that doesn’t kick back and watch the market pass him. He has the market loyalty and critical mass in terms of finances and production capacity to challenge any market competition. Watch for a quantum leap in his tracked vehicles very soon.
That being said, kudos to HB for their first foray into this market space; they hit a real HOME RUN! Only their figures lag behind KC’s in terms of quality in this set comparison. Again this is my opinion.
HB Panther details are superb from the tracks, grille work, armor, antenna, vents, rear exhaust pipes, front tow rings, and even the wheels. Surprisingly not only is the HB panther heavy but it’s a little bit larger too than the KC Panther.
Frankly, I'm proud to have both tanks in my collection. It's like comparing a Lexus to a BMW, it's matter of taste.
I remain excited to see future release from both companies. Man, those KC figures are cool! Yes Brad, the KC figures workout great with the HB Panthers.
Happy collecting and keep having fun,
Carlos
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