Killed kilt (1 Viewer)

[lamiral]

Hi guys,
I just received my JR12 piper. At first glance , a good-looking one. But as soon in the hand ,what a disappointment : I could see under the kilt ,all ridiculously full.
Where was that makes John's originality in this range : his very realistic treatment of the kilt?
Is it the triumph of some anglo-saxon puritanism lobby ? Or simply the result of a lack of time in sculpting ?
In this matter, we , collectors , bear a great responsability . We want more and
more figures and make pressure upon this poor John; we forget that he is alone and has only two hands.
Let be patient to be sure to have always a Great John with his creativity ( and his TRUE scots )
What do you think about guys ?
Thierry

 

[lancer]

Hi guys,
I just received my JR12 piper. At first glance , a good-looking one. But as soon in the hand ,what a disappointment : I could see under the kilt ,all ridiculously full.
Where was that makes John's originality in this range : his very realistic treatment of the kilt?
Is it the triumph of some anglo-saxon puritanism lobby ? Or simply the result of a lack of time in sculpting ?
In this matter, we , collectors , bear a great responsability . We want more and
more figures and make pressure upon this poor John; we forget that he is alone and has only two hands.
Let be patient to be sure to have always a Great John with his creativity ( and his TRUE scots )
What do you think about guys ?
Thierry

What? Did you like it or not? What is the problem with the kilt/figure? -- Al

 

[lamiral]

Hi lancer
I'am sorry if my english is not clear. I didn' find the right words.
I bought Jenkins ( after King & country ) because I was fed up with traditionnal
lead toys soldiers. I have all the ranges of John except 1812.
At the beginning ,I was not keen to buy the higlanders but when I saw them,
I choose them because I found them beautiful and realistic .
And as to this piper figure even if I find it very handsome, I am a little annoyed because it is different than the others of the range ;it's for me the same problem as to have a metal flag near a plastic or resin one . I like uniformity
:all the same.And even if the difference is not visible , I know it.
On another hand, also because of this "under kiIt"I don't see this figure "real " (or true) like the others.It seems to me like all the ancient soldiers.Why not in this case return to a rod looking as a gun?
Consequently , I wondered if the difference in this piper is due to moral pressures ( no anatomy) , technical difficulties or a speed work because when want too much figures from John.
I hope I was clearer. Anyway , I love my Jenkins.

 

[Dragoon]

I do not have this figure yet. I'm surprised to hear that the kilts have become ''solid''.

 

[lancer]

Hi lancer
I'am sorry if my english is not clear. I didn' find the right words.
I bought Jenkins ( after King & country ) because I was fed up with traditionnal
lead toys soldiers. I have all the ranges of John except 1812.
At the beginning ,I was not keen to buy the higlanders but when I saw them,
I choose them because I found them beautiful and realistic .
And as to this piper figure even if I find it very handsome, I am a little annoyed because it is different than the others of the range ;it's for me the same problem as to have a metal flag near a plastic or resin one . I like uniformity
:all the same.And even if the difference is not visible , I know it.
On another hand, also because of this "under kiIt"I don't see this figure "real " (or true) like the others.It seems to me like all the ancient soldiers.Why not in this case return to a rod looking as a gun?
Consequently , I wondered if the difference in this piper is due to moral pressures ( no anatomy) , technical difficulties or a speed work because when want too much figures from John.
I hope I was clearer. Anyway , I love my Jenkins.

Thanks for the clarification. I also love the JJD highlanders. It is a bit odd that the anatomical correctness is gone but I'm sure there was a reason. Maybe easier and cheaper to sculpt as a neutral gender. -- Al

 

[thebritfarmer]

Could there have been complaints from collectors who found the previous figures offensive??

 

[4th Hussar]

OMG , you are telling me the Scots have been gelded ? If so this must be a dastardously English plot to depopulate the Highlands................

 

[mikemiller1955]

If I'm understanding this first post correctly...

are you objecting to the fact that John did not include a sculpting view of his bare bottom and genitalia on this figure...

well.................it's true he didn't...does it matter to me...

No.............

Honestly...I must have owned 6 of them before I even noticed this detail on these figures...and then only because someone on this forum brought it to my attention...

It never occurred to me to look under the kilts...

it really doesn't make a difference to me...

not even a little...

not being able to see his "manhood"...is not an issue to me...

 

[kilted vampire]

I am certain it is a lot easier to produce this way , rather than complaints from customers. Most women want to and will look. I know, I am the Kilted Vampire! You seriously did not think I was not going to weigh in on this one did you?
MUAHAHAHAHhahhahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

 

[lamiral]

Hi Michael,
I'am not specially fond of genitalias for the thing ( nevertheless, my scots make all my female friends smiling) .
Several years ago , I sold all my collection of toysoldiers when I discovered a new type of figures with K&C. Then Jenkins caught me with FIW.
What I want with a small soldier is that it would be as nearest as possible from the real life.
It's obvious that this kilt is a fake . I have the feeling of looking at one of my old Britain
toysoldier and it makes me unhappy.
To sum up , I don' want a toy; I want to find Jenkins again.

 

[kilted vampire]

Hey do not misunderstand me. It is your money. You are entitled to get what you are looking for. Perhaps John will return to the earlier style.

 

[BlakeWR85]

Hi Michael,
I'am not specially fond of genitalias for the thing ( nevertheless, my scots make all my female friends smiling) .
Several years ago , I sold all my collection of toysoldiers when I discovered a new type of figures with K&C. Then Jenkins caught me with FIW.
What I want with a small soldier is that it would be as nearest as possible from the real life.
It's obvious that this kilt is a fake . I have the feeling of looking at one of my old Britain
toysoldier and it makes me unhappy.
To sum up , I don' want a toy; I want to find Jenkins again.

I guess it is similar to buying a toy car, it probably doesn't have an engine under the hood. But I know what you are looking for, a model car, that when you look under the hood, it has a fully detailed engine. Sounds similar to your dilemma

 

[Phantom Warrior]

Did any of the other manufacturers making Highlanders make anatomically correct ones like Jenkins did?

Terry

 

[marco55]

Maybe it's a defect.Does everyone who have this figure have the same undercarridge?
Mark

 

[thebritfarmer]

I don't think lamiral is really all that focused on the genitalia as much as that underneath the kilt is hollow like it would be in real life not filled in.

 

[BlakeWR85]

This reminds me, anyone remember this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=685f0GoTNPI
:

 

[kilted vampire]

That is just wrong! If you wear anything underneath you are wearing a dress!

 

[Scott]

That is just wrong! If you wear anything underneath you are wearing a dress!

Ha! Tell THIS guy!

I was told that it's a "skirt" if you don't wear all the regalia of hose, sporran etc.

I'm the guy that looks up the skirts of Female figurines! There was an 18th century lady in porcelain at the Museum of Art in NY on a glass shelf behind glass. I took a quick look an found that details of all her stockings, petticoats and such were included.