Knights of the Codex Manesse (1 Viewer)

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I'm starting off a new thread with some knights drawn from a less than usual source. It's called the Codex Manesse - and rather than trying to explain what this almost miraculously preserved collection of parchments ( over 600 years old) is - maybe 5 minutes reading of the attached link - might best explain it.

http://www.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/Englisch/allg/benutzung/bereiche/handschriften/codexmanesse.html

And if you scoot to thebottom of the page - there you will find Codex manesse - digitized - which - if clicked - will give access to ALL of the wonderfully illustrated medieval pages. And - lurking within those pages - you will find illustrations of some Medieval Knights and their colourful heraldry.

One such illustration (page 11 - if you got that far ) is going to provide me with my opening subject - this time. He's Hertzog Heinrich von Breslau ( Herzog is a hereditary title - broadly meaning Duke, in English). And to save you looking - here he is:^&grin




In order to make him up - I've gone back to using a re-cast of one of Selwyn-Smith's figures, from back in the 1950's. Mine was adapted slightly - in order to better represent Heinrich - though I fancied making him up to appear as if he was in a joust. In the picture you can see his Great-Helm and Lance being carried for him - and even a man with a hammer (blacksmith?) to provide running repairs to his armour. One word of warning about such illustrations, however. They were done by several different hands - and at least SOME of the heraldry is suspect. If the illustrator wasn't sure - they sometimes made things up. So.....if I change things very slightly myself, I'm only going along with the precedent set by the original artists, and usually for a good reason.

Anyway, enough of the chat - let's get on with the first figure.

My first attempt, was to see if these old eyes could actually manage the heraldry for Heinrich - and this is what he looked like - after an undercoat of cream, was overpainted with sage-green in the diamond pattern. I actually drew on the pattern with red-brown paint first - and painted in the green when it had dried. Then I tried my hand at the eagles. Well - no Rembrandt - but okay in this scale (54mm) for what is to become a Glossy Toy Soldier (eventually).



My next pic shows the pieces for several modifications I wanted to make:

Ignore the well developed painted figure for now - and see the basic casting on the left. I have gluede the two halves together - and removed any flash and filled in minor holes and defect and generall cleaned up the casting by filing and sanding. I also removed his head - as I wanted one with a helmet I can remove - which you can also see in front of him(below)



Note also the arm with dagged sleeves - holding a banner ( which comes with this casting ). I wanted the arm - but not the banner - so removed the banner. I also wanted my figure to hold the reins with his LEFT hand ( i.e. the one holding the banner) - and a Lance in his right hand. This meant adapting both arms with dagged sleeves ( which I wanted to retain - because they look so good) and change positioning of the left lower arm (to now hold reins ) and replace his lower right arm with a suitable arm to hold a lance. So.............some cutting off lower arms and repositioning and/or replacement required. You can see the new Shield holding left arm now fitted to the partially painted figure - and the re-modelled Lnce arm in front of the figure. I always fit arms AFTER the heraldry is painted on the body of the Knight - as getting a brush around them - can be quite tricky. Easier to paint the heraldry first - then fit the bits.

Note also - the sword in scabbard fitted before the arm goes on. This is an addition - as no sword appears in the original illustration - though a Knight without a sword?????? I don't think so. Note also that I have coloured the turn-backs and inner lining of the Caparison differently to the picture. The original pale colour just looked anaemic when I first tried it - so I chose a stronger colour instead (red-brown). In fact - very similar to the Blacksmith's horse - which provided a stylistically nice counterpoint colour in the original picture. So...........a few small stylistic changes .

Here's a pic of the other side, by the way - just for a look at the heraldic ornamentation on his other side - which I think is fairly representative of the original pic - though I think the original colour now represented by cream MIGHT have been gold, at one time ( the pics are old - and have deteriorated over time). To counter this - I have overlaid borders of gold around each panel - but it retains the overall look and feel of the original picture quite well, I think.

I had to (unusually) varnish each piece of heraldry as I went along, this time - as I found that it was so fiddley, my hands kept smudging the eagles as I handled the piece. So I painted the body first - dried - applied thin coat varnish - dried - then did each half side and repeated the process. No smudges that way - so worked out okay - just VERY fiddley - and took longer.

Annyway, I'm off and running with this one - with maybe a few more to go - as time permits. jb


 
Do not even know where to begin with the compliments on this one !

Great work...the Heraldry is wonderful.

Always been an admirer of "Selwyn-Smith" and his work.
Way back, a long time ago, the second set of metal knights I received (not to be played with, at the time) were some mounted and foot W. Britain "Knights of Agincourt". Still have them, but I did "play" with them and the results were a loss of paint, a banner and a shield. Still some of my favourites. I believe Selwyn-Smith was responsible for that series ?

The enjoyment you provide by sharing your work, is truly appreciated.

Thank you
 
Got to agree with Ivanhoe, great Heraldry, really looking forward to following these JB. The Codex itself plays like a graphic novel, beautiful colors, love the art of it!
Ray
 
Do not even know where to begin with the compliments on this one !

Great work...the Heraldry is wonderful.

Always been an admirer of "Selwyn-Smith" and his work.
Way back, a long time ago, the second set of metal knights I received (not to be played with, at the time) were some mounted and foot W. Britain "Knights of Agincourt". Still have them, but I did "play" with them and the results were a loss of paint, a banner and a shield. Still some of my favourites. I believe Selwyn-Smith was responsible for that series ?

The enjoyment you provide by sharing your work, is truly appreciated.

Thank you

Glad you like him ( so far) buddy. I enjoy showing them too.

If you still have them - and they've become a bit knocked about - I'm tempted to suggest you give 'em a lick of paint.

BUT - that old devil-word "value" comes into play here, though if you've had them a long time - chances are they aren't going anywhere soon.

You could always do as I do - buy a few re-casts - and splash a bit of paint around?? The original ones by Selwyn, of course - are quite valuable - and chances are that you have some old Britains - who bought them from him - after the untimely death of his business partner - which aren't the most exciting of paint jobs.

Do you have the book - Heraldic miniature Knights by Peter Greenhill??? If not - try and get a look at it. Maybe your local library could have one??? It's stuffed full of lots of the old masters work (Courtney, Ping Selwyn etc) - and is bound to give you lots of inspiration and ideas on painting some for yourself? I just found a good used one on a well known book website for under $20 US .

Got to give that new visor a work-out! :D jb
 
Got to agree with Ivanhoe, great Heraldry, really looking forward to following these JB. The Codex itself plays like a graphic novel, beautiful colors, love the art of it!
Ray

Have to agree Ray - though in lots of the pics - some of the guys and gals do look a bit - well...."soppy".;)

When you consider its age though - and what turmoil and the number of hands its been through since the 1300's - it's a miracle it survived at all.

And then - hats off to Heidelberg University for giving access online to all of the pages - well done them too!!!

Should be fun - as I haven't quite made up my mind yet which will come next - and how many I'll have a go at:D! jb Helmet next though - where's my lamp and Optivisor??? jb
 
And here he is now. just a little more work required. I'm only showing him with helmet off, for now, as It's a little too tight for comfort yet.



Other side:



And rear view: Notice the small "bald spot" on rear of his head. This is where I tried the helmet on - too soon, as it turned out - and removing it just shaved a spot of paint off ( at this time of year - it takes a bit longer for paint to harden off.) goes to show that not everything goes right first time. I'll re-touch his hair and wait until he's perfectly dry before trying it again. Also - a touch of fine emery cloth inside the helmet will shave any lingering rough spots away.



I'll show him again later - when all is fixed - helmet on and off.

In the meantime, I'm preparing another casting for another figure from the Codex - whom I'll introduce you to later on today. jb
 
The next figure that I've chosen from the CM - may not be a "real" knight at all. But here he is - in a splendidly flamboyant display below ( to save you looking, he' s 184 in the list of illustrated pages). He's named as Herr Herman von Aue - who was a renowned poet, and works still exist by him - penned in old German - but may not have been an actual Knight - and this may be one of the "made up" heraldic displays, known to have been present in the collection of illustrations.

Nevertheless - he's there - and so I am making a figure of him up in this given likeness.




I'm using another casting from Selwyn-Smith for my figure, which originally was a slightly rearing figure- with a Lance.

My figure is adapted to use slightly different bits and pieces - to more closely follow the Codex picture. Note the main figure assembled and cleaned up and original head removed. Below are various pieces, including modified base, new helmet with bird ornament, sword shield and lance arm. ( Metal pieces are Dorset Soldier spare parts).

The base was modified by making two extra holes - which move the figure back to the edge of the base. I don't want him rearing - for the practical reason of weight distribution. He's heavy - and I also get three hooves on the base Front right now touches down), and the figure will be far more balanced and supported this way. Again. no knight's sword is shown in the original - so I will give him one. I will need to lengthen his surcoat - as the original cast-in garment is too short - and I will need to add the pennant to his lance.




Here he is adapted and some pieces put loosely together - to check for fit.



Note the original holes in base have been filled with milliput - and the surcoat has been "lengthened, again with milliput. His lance is temporarily stuck to his body with a small piece of milliput = to check that the new fabricated pennant fits correctly - and does not foul the new head which has also been pinned into the body at a suitable angle ( I want him looking slightly left - and over his shield, which fits okay too - I checked). A hole has also been drilled - to accept his sword eventually, after painting a bit more detail.

His pennant has been made from a piece of aluminium foil - from inside a margarine tub. By cutting it larger - coating the inside with super-glue - and folding it back in on itself - I got it to the correct size, shape and thickness to fold around the lance. Before the glue sets off hard, put in a few ripples - and when dry - it's quite firm and solid enough to represent the pennant.

I next painted the underside of the horse in a light brown ( not keen on a pink horse:rolleyes: - as the illustration now looks - as the original pigments have probably changed over the intervening 600 plus years). Then I glued the horse to the base - for ease of handling - and gave an undercoat to all blue parts Lining and fold-backs are in Ivory) - - to check out folds etc of the modified knight and pennant, who currently looks like this:



So....we're off with number two.:D jb
 
Beautifully made! I doff my helm to you , Sire.....


I don't think helms were that easily doffed, old bean:D - they must have weighed in at several kilos! But I take the sentiment with thanks. :rolleyes:

He is a bit different to the more normal thugs I knock out!!!jb
 
It is so interesting to read these posts and admire your work !

Your output of new figures seems to exceed toy soldier manufacturers.

You give such enjoyment of the Forum to me.

Thank you
 
It is so interesting to read these posts and admire your work !

Your output of new figures seems to exceed toy soldier manufacturers.

You give such enjoyment of the Forum to me.

Thank you

Thank you for liking them. My "output" of Knights - is usually in singles, and for my pleasure - as I like the challenge of seeing something that I like - and then trying to produce something like it - in Glossy Toy Soldier style. I have done quite a lot of other figures similar to this - so am probably getting quicker at it - from previous experience with them.

I'm always indebted to the guys who actually make the castings and other bits and pieces though - without which , I wouldn't be able to do it. Giles Brown, of Dorset Soldiers, gets a lot of my custom - and has become a firm friend along the way. If I get stuck - I often ask for his advice.

I was really pleased, earlier on this week, when the new owner of AQM (Mike of Imperial Miniatures),decided that at some future point, he was going to revive the old AQM Agincourt range - as castings too. That will be a new set for me to play with - eventually.:D

As a hobbyist, I get enormous pleasure from producing things for my own collection, and - given the prices of painted figures these days - keeps me in the hobby; - and I must admit, pleasure from others apparently liking what I do too. So.......win/win.

Glad you like 'em too. jb
 
And here he is now. just a little more work required. I'm only showing him with helmet off, for now, as It's a little too tight for comfort yet.



Other side:



And rear view: Notice the small "bald spot" on rear of his head. This is where I tried the helmet on - too soon, as it turned out - and removing it just shaved a spot of paint off ( at this time of year - it takes a bit longer for paint to harden off.) goes to show that not everything goes right first time. I'll re-touch his hair and wait until he's perfectly dry before trying it again. Also - a touch of fine emery cloth inside the helmet will shave any lingering rough spots away.



I'll show him again later - when all is fixed - helmet on and off.

In the meantime, I'm preparing another casting for another figure from the Codex - whom I'll introduce you to later on today. jb

Beautiful work JB!
 
Here's an update on progress of the latest figure, with a couple of pics to better explain what I am doing. Due to the success I had with my first figure - I'm adopting the same process of applying a very thin coat of varnish, between sides of the piece I'm working on. This stops smudging of the already completed side - whilst working on the other side. Compare the shiny - with non shiny side below.



Note the detail on the top pic side - and just the outline of the bird head on the other. I've also done the same thing for the pennant - just to show the difference. Note also that I have chosen to mount the shield - cleaned up the mounting holes ( attaches to two pegs on the casting), and then painted it with two coats of matt blue, (Humbrol 25). I can now safely handle the casting whilst working on either the shield - or (more likely) complete the other side first. You can see now, how leaving off the lance arm will help me paint the detail of the bird head on the figure's chest. Once that is completed, I can put it on, and complete painting the shoulder joint. I've also chosen to make the legs of this horse look a little like Courtney would sometimes - which is unrealistic - but make for a nice Glossy Toy soldier, once completed. I also like the lengthened surcoat of the knight - which mimics nicely the flowing nature of the horse caparison.



Whilst working on this figure, I have chosen my next one - and the casting which I will use. More on that later - but here's the Codex picture of my next figure. He is Herr Heidrich von Frauenberg ( in case you're wondering - he's the guy who looks like he's winning - and being sponsored by KFC!). I don't think I'll be choosing to put Turkey drumsticks on his head though - like the original artists ( what were they thinking?) - but maybe follow the image on his shield - and use a Griffin instead. This guy was a real thug ( according to Wiki) - but his horse looks pretty!!:D jb

 
Regarding "Herr Heidrich von Frauenberg", you might be a "Thug" also, if you had to wear those "Turkey Drumsticks" on your helm like he did !

I really like the 'Birds' on the glossy side of your new project horse...especially the outlining in black, really gives them some depth.
 
Regarding "Herr Heidrich von Frauenberg", you might be a "Thug" also, if you had to wear those "Turkey Drumsticks" on your helm like he did !

I really like the 'Birds' on the glossy side of your new project horse...especially the outlining in black, really gives them some depth.

Ha! You're probably right about that. I always ask myself - now IF I was a knight - would I wear that???? In this case - the answer is a definite NO!

Just reinforces, for me, that this may be one of the "made up" knightly candidates that the Codex list is known to contain. I also don't think that the artists knew much about heraldry - as the bird-head image should follow heraldic rules. there are four heads on the rear of the horse caparison - and three on front part and shield. I used this to my advantage - as I followed suit - and gave him just one on his chest and another on his back. If the rules don't apply for them - then they don't for me either. :D

However, I do like the heads idea, ( which is what attracted me to the figure originally), and wish I could take credit for adding the black lines - but if you have a close look at the original Codex picture ( get a bigger pic by pressing the + in the bar above), you can see that the original artist did it that way. As I'm really doing a 3D copy in miniature - it seemed obvious to follow the original. And yes - it does make them pop.

I'm currently sorting out some bits and pieces for Heidrich - so may pop in a quick pic. later. This is my usual method of work with a small series of knights - with one overlapping the other. This way, work on the "new" figure takes place - whilst paint is drying on the other.

jb
 
And here's Heidrich.

This time I've chosen another Selwyn-Smith figure - which is a knight charging, (Note the flowing tail). You may note another bit of artistic licence that I have taken with this figure - in that the horse is wearing some neck armour (Crinnet)_ and a Chaffron (face plate). Quite simply - the castings come this way - and I think they don't detract from the figure - so rather than removal by surgery - I decided to leave them there. Not so for his head - I changed it for a bare head - plus detachable Great Helm with Griffin ornament - but removed the lambrequin ( flowing cloth attached - as the tail of the beast may do instead. I might add a neck cloth later????. I'll see how it looks first.

My Knight casting came with a sword in right arm originally - but I will exchange that for a lance - as in the picture. This flowing figure will have just the two rear hooves on the small stand - so will need careful glueing in place. If all else fails - I'll give him a small "pin" under one front hoof ( as others have done with such figures I've seen). We will just have to see how stable he is - when completed. He should be okay - as I re-drilled some holes to fit tightly to the lugs cast-in under both rear hooves- as the originals were too loose.

I have also "flatted" the caparison etc, prior to marking it out for the zig-zag decoration shown ( Humbrol Cream Matt 103) - I usually use a light touch pencil for this, which is easily overpainted. I'll experiment with mixing colours - to hopefully achieve what appears to be a light violet shade.



Just fitted lance and pennant to Herman - so will allow him to rest overnight. maybe a pic of him for tomorrow. jb
 
Theses men are serious about there hats!.... however there style is....questionable:confused:
I can hear the squires snickering in the stables.
Ray
 
Theses men are serious about there hats!.... however there style is....questionable:confused:
I can hear the squires snickering in the stables.
Ray

Well Ray................Don't forget these dudes are from a book of poetry................so maybe a bit of "exotic hats" was all the rage way back then for poets???

As for "The snickering squires" - well, if I was in charge of polishing his sword/lance etc, I certainly wouldn't let him catch me even smirking. :rolleyes:

"Oh! what a lovely hat Milord" :D jb (see - no smirk - just a beaming smile).
 

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