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Hi all.
Found an old Escalado horse racing game (Chad Valley 1950/60s) with lead horses looking very aged with chipped paint on them.
I was thinking of giving them a new coat of paint and would like some advice on best removing the original paint.
Looked on web but not very clear on best product to use.
Some solutions melt/soften figures if left too long etc...and scrapping off (lead) paint harmful etc.
Would just soaking in white spirit 24hrs and brushing off do the job?...and what primer and paints best on lead? Thanks in advance!
 
I use a product called SuperClean, an automotive de-greaser. I used to use oven cleaner, but SuperClean has some advantages for me, over oven cleaner.

One is that oven cleaners are all in aerosol cans, and they are once-and-done products; that is, you can't use a batch more than once. You spray it on the piece, it removes the paint, but when you rinse it away, it's gone. SuperClean can be used over and over again. I use glass jars of various sizes to hold a batch of the liquid, and just immerse the pieces in it. It begins at once to soften old paint, which dissolves into the solution. The longer the piece soaks, the more the paint is softened and dissolves away, but usually, in a soak of about five to ten minutes, I can remove most of the paint. I hold the piece under running water and scrub the paint away gently with an old toothbrush.

It's also relatively cheap, at about eight to nine bucks a gallon. Couple that with the fact that it can be re-used, and the cost drops dramatically compared to oven cleaner.

Another advantage is that SuperClean is not nearly as caustic as oven cleaner, whose primary active ingredient is lye. SC has lye in it, too, but it doesn't give off as strong a set of fumes as oven cleaner does. I still recommend working in a well-ventilated area and using household cleaning gloves, though I often dispense with that last one, because I don't really come in prolonged contact with the liquid.

And yet another advantage of SuperClean is outside our hobby-as a de-greaser, it can be used to clean things around the house and in the garage. I've used it on grease stains, and to clear constricted plumbing drains, as well as to clean baking dishes with stubborn baked-on material.

I don't know if you can get it in the UK. But I have read from people over there, of using brake fluid, which works the same way, especially in that you could use a batch over and over.

If nothing else, you can still use oven cleaner, too. When I used it, I used an old glass baking dish to hold the piece, then sprayed the oven cleaner over it. Wait five minutes or so, and you can start rinsing and scrubbing the paint away. It may take several passes to do.

As far as damaging the metal goes, I wouldn't worry. I don't know of any solvents we might use to remove paint, that can damage metal. That goes for de-greasers, oven cleaners, brake fluids, to mineral spirits and turpentine, or lacquer thinners. You need something on the order of a strong acid to attack the metal.

Hope that helps, and do show us pictures of your project!

Prost!
Brad
 
I soak my lead figures in Simple Green. Every few days I scrub them down with a toothbrush (best not one you're still using!) and pick at stubborn areas with something sharp. May take a week or so. And, oh yes, you may want to use a nose mask. Good luck!

Bosun Al
 
Hi all.
Found an old Escalado horse racing game (Chad Valley 1950/60s) with lead horses looking very aged with chipped paint on them.
I was thinking of giving them a new coat of paint and would like some advice on best removing the original paint.
Looked on web but not very clear on best product to use.
Some solutions melt/soften figures if left too long etc...and scrapping off (lead) paint harmful etc.
Would just soaking in white spirit 24hrs and brushing off do the job?...and what primer and paints best on lead? Thanks in advance!

Go to your local "Pound Shop" -and get a bottle of liquid oven cleaner ( for £1 naturally). Put about an inch of it in something disposable - like a clean used margarine tub - and chuck 'em in. Sure, use an old toothbrush to give 'em a scrub every so often - it just helps loosen the grunge.

Rinse under clean running water after use. You CAN re-use the same stuff for a second or third batch - but may need topping up as you use it.

Use rubber gloves to protect your hands - (they come with the bottle in a pack in my local shop) - and avoid inhaling any fumes (just use common sense).

At the end - usually an hour or so...... you will have clean castings - ready to go. With what's left over - you can clean the oven - you'll get good Brownie points, if you do!:cool: jb
 
Go to your local "Pound Shop" -and get a bottle of liquid oven cleaner ( for £1 naturally)...

Y'know, I never thought about looking for liquid oven cleaner. Here in the US, oven cleaner in spray cans is so ubiquitous that it never occurred to me that any manufacturer might also make it in liquid form. So I did a quick web search now and found that we have some liquid oven cleaners, too, including the leading brand, Easy Off. However, here, they are far more expensive per volume than the de-greasers-$20.80 for a 2-quart jug, compared to $8 for a gallon of SuperClean. I won't be changing back to oven cleaner, myself. But it does suggest that someone might look and find a generic product, especially if he goes to a store that supplies cleaning companies, that might be cheaper than the name brands.

Prost!
Brad
 
Hi all.
Found an old Escalado horse racing game (Chad Valley 1950/60s) with lead horses looking very aged with chipped paint on them.
I was thinking of giving them a new coat of paint and would like some advice on best removing the original paint.
Looked on web but not very clear on best product to use.
Some solutions melt/soften figures if left too long etc...and scrapping off (lead) paint harmful etc.
Would just soaking in white spirit 24hrs and brushing off do the job?...and what primer and paints best on lead? Thanks in advance!

Various products are used, depending on where you live and what type of paint is used on the figures. Some brands of oven cleaner work, but others don't. Some people use brake fluid. In the past I've used "thinner", but I assume white spirit would be similar. Currently, I use a product that's destined for removing paint from old furniture. It's a green goo type, but at least it doesn't smell too bad. With all of them, rinse after soaking for a few hours/days and use an old toothbrush to scrub away the paint. Repeat for a second soak if you don't get all or most of it off.

Regarding primer, you can find plenty of "hobby" brands for the 28mm, the easiest to source near you being the Games Workshop one, but I've switched to car primers years ago and haven't had any issues.

Regarding paint, I use such brands as Vallejo, Coat d'Arms, Reaper Miniatures paint, Wargames Foundry paint triads and DecoArt craft paints.
 

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