MATT Finishing Coat... Spray or Brush - Whats A Good One...? (1 Viewer)

[barneywomble]

Hi, After fixing a small mistake on my first batch of model soldiers I would like to give them a protective coat of MATT finish. What is best - Brush on or Spray on and What is a good reliable brand and product. thanks, marc

 

[mikemiller1955]

Hi, After fixing a small mistake on my first batch of model soldiers I would like to give them a protective coat of MATT finish. What is best - Brush on or Spray on and What is a good reliable brand and product. thanks, marc

I use Krylon matte spray finish...it covers well...dries quick and hard...but it seems more of a "satin" to me...a little glossy...

I have never tried a brush on...

someone told me the "Testor's" was more of a dull matte finish...

what manufacturer's figure are you spraying?

 

[Ragnar]

I have used quit a few over the years spray and brush,some good and some just a real payne in the you know what!
But to cut a long story short i have just started using Tamiya clear matt spray and i wish i had found this ten years ago.
It gives a REAL pure matt finnish and does not have a bad smell like some others!

Rob,

 

[RPZ]

Just a further question; are most or all of these clear coats compatible with pre-painted figures? Anyone ever have a matt or gloss color detail wrinkle up or react with a clear coat?

 

[DM101]

I have used quit a few over the years spray and brush,some good and some just a real payne in the you know what!
But to cut a long story short i have just started using Tamiya clear matt spray and i wish i had found this ten years ago.
It gives a REAL pure matt finnish and does not have a bad smell like some others!

Rob,

Is it this you using ? TS-80 Flat Clear - 100ml Spray Can

http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/item.php?product-id=85080

But it had been DISCONTINUED

PS: I am also looking for a MATT SPRAY

 

[johnnybach]

Just a further question; are most or all of these clear coats compatible with pre-painted figures? Anyone ever have a matt or gloss color detail wrinkle up or react with a clear coat?

CAN happen - if you apply a coat too soon after painting. Just because paint is touch dry - it ain't necessarilly so - in my view. Best to give sufficient time to let paint dry thoroughly. This can alter with temperature or humidity too. Also depends on the paint your using. If in doubt - give it a bit more time.

I do Glossy - nearly always. I too like Tamiya products. Their Acrylic clear X-22 is wonderful stuff - and dries quickly to the touch too. It's a brush-on and it gives a high-gloss finish though - but that's what I like anyway. Suggest you investigate their range of products. jb

 

[Obee]

Marc,

I use ESTAPOL Matt Spray for all my matt figures.

It costs about $13 a can, and use it in thin coats to achive a good finish. Just watch out on white, becasue is got a slight yellow colour, like varnish, and can affect the colour.

Check out the WATYLL website for you closest supplier in Brisbane.

John

 

[Ragnar]

Is it this you using ? TS-80 Flat Clear - 100ml Spray Can

http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/item.php?product-id=85080

But it had been DISCONTINUED

PS: I am also looking for a MATT SPRAY

Yep thats it did not know its was discontinued now im going to go out and load up on 100 cans cos its the best matt finnish i have ever used!
ok im going to go cry now

 

[barneywomble]

Marc,

I use ESTAPOL Matt Spray for all my matt figures.

It costs about $13 a can, and use it in thin coats to achive a good finish. Just watch out on white, becasue is got a slight yellow colour, like varnish, and can affect the colour.

Check out the WATYLL website for you closest supplier in Brisbane.

John

Hi John, thanks for that, will do.

 

[barneywomble]

I use Krylon matte spray finish...it covers well...dries quick and hard...but it seems more of a "satin" to me...a little glossy...

I have never tried a brush on...

someone told me the "Testor's" was more of a dull matte finish...

what manufacturer's figure are you spraying?

the figures are HAT but there will be others. thanks for your advice.

 

[maddadicus]

CAN happen - if you apply a coat too soon after painting. Just because paint is touch dry - it ain't necessarilly so - in my view. Best to give sufficient time to let paint dry thoroughly. This can alter with temperature or humidity too. Also depends on the paint your using. If in doubt - give it a bit more time.

I do Glossy - nearly always. I too like Tamiya products. Their Acrylic clear X-22 is wonderful stuff - and dries quickly to the touch too. It's a brush-on and it gives a high-gloss finish though - but that's what I like anyway. Suggest you investigate their range of products. jb

Funny you should mention brush on. I am terrible with spray glossing large surfaces. A figure is hard to mess up with overspray and globs of extra gloss ooze. but let me try to do flat areas and it always comes out a disaster. I have a tin plate plane that need a spot paint and regloss. I want to regloss the small area just done. Is there a particular brush and type of paint that would leave a smooth surface finish? Michael

 

[johnnybach]

Funny you should mention brush on. I am terrible with spray glossing large surfaces. A figure is hard to mess up with overspray and globs of extra gloss ooze. but let me try to do flat areas and it always comes out a disaster. I have a tin plate plane that need a spot paint and regloss. I want to regloss the small area just done. Is there a particular brush and type of paint that would leave a smooth surface finish? Michael

I keep a special brush JUST for glossy varnishing - and it's never let me down. Its a very soft sable at No.6 size. As mentioned earlier - I was tipped off about Tamiya Clear X-22 - which Tamiya refer to as "Acrylic Paint", by a couple of members on here - for which I will be forever grateful. Marvelous stuff - comes in a small jar - so you can see it's a clear coat. Just dip in your brush and give the area a quick swipe, blending it in with the other area towards the edges. Don't overwork it though - as this stuff dries within minutes. Any brush strokes disappear immediately - and that's it! Never let me down yet. If you put the lid back on the pot immediately - it will keep down to the last drop without thickening - so lasts well too.

I immediately clean off my brush with thinners first - then gently work a little soft soap into the head with my fingers and run hot water to clean out any residue ( because it's an Acrylic Varnish). Then dry with a soft tissue and leave it standing upright to dry out. I have used the same brush for about 2 years now - so very economical on brushes too.

If the newly repainted area dries shinier than the rest of the paintwork - consider giving the whole area a coating?

I use Humbrol Enamels - so always use a first coat of Humbrol Gloss varnish to seal in all paintwork on figures - then a day or so later, apply this finish - IF I want a super-gloss look.

Why not give it a try with a less valued test piece first - as a trial - to see how it turns out with the paint you are using? I have used an empty food can to paint and varnish areas before - just to test how the surface looks after painting/varnishing?

Just a few thoughts Mike - best of luck with it. jb

 

[RPZ]

Anyone know a U.S. seller that has the Tamiya TS-80 flat clear? All I can find are U.K. sellers who will not ship to the U.S., and one Japanese seller on eBay charging an extortionate amount for two cans.

 

[Ragnar]

Anyone know a U.S. seller that has the Tamiya TS-80 flat clear? All I can find are U.K. sellers who will not ship to the U.S., and one Japanese seller on eBay charging an extortionate amount for two cans.

Im not sure about the USA but in OZ you cant ship Spray Cans in the mail {even within AU} and cant get them shipped from overseas.
For TS-80 i just do the rounds at Hobby stores you know the type that sell remote control cars ect...as Tamyia paints are popular with that crowd.
It does say discontinued for the TS-80 {who knows why ?} on the Tamyia site but there's still stock out there.
Ps...they cost about $12 a can here...and the nozzle never breaks down or clogs up like the Hardware store type!

 

[RPZ]

Thanks Ragnar, I think the feds here are making Tamiya re-label it due to new regs.