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Has anyone seen this Mideval Cog up close ??

Would K&C Crusaders go in it OK?

Is this ship the right type of ship for the Crusaders ??

Questions ???, Questions ???? :confused::confused:

HELP !
 
Ron,

This is what RC has to say on the Conte site.

"This gorgeous work of art depicts the standard 'war ship' of the Middle Ages as it would have appeared when in use by the Angles, the Saxons , the Welsh, the French, the Normans or any other number of ocean going warriors. This vessel is perfect for transporting Crusaders to the Holy Land or for toy soldier sailings just about anywhere in Europe or the Mediterranean. (I've always wondered how Crusaders made by other manufacturers were ever supposed to arrive in Acre without transport?????)".

So, it seems that you need to go and buy one :D

Jeff
 

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Jeff

I want one !!

i just want to see one up close and personal or see a photo of some K&C Crusaders inside it for scale.

I really think it is the bomb for me ! ;)

Ron
 
Capitolron said:
Jeff

I want one !!

i just want to see one up close and personal or see a photo of some K&C Crusaders inside it for scale.

I really think it is the bomb for me ! ;)

Ron
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Ron,

I've not seen the Conte figures, but I would think that the K&C Crusaders are just that bit bigger.

Jeff
 
Jeff

Really - I would think that the K&C Crusader figures would be smaller ?? :confused: Since these guys are smaller than the rest of the K&C Lines.

Ron
 
Capitolron said:
Jeff

Really - I would think that the K&C Crusader figures would be smaller ?? :confused: Since these guys are smaller than the rest of the K&C Lines.

Ron
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Ummm....on average, weren't medieval people smaller than modern era people..??
Cheers
H
 
Yeah, they look great. Unfortunately I only own 3 K&C Crusaders that work as crew (I have two more that are charging poses). I'm going to need to pick up some more over the coming months. Conte says they may make some crew at some point, and the two unpainted helmsmen in the set are the same size as K&C figures. In total there's lots of room on deck for probably at least 15 figures. There are also rooms under both the bow and stern castles but getting figures inside is difficult. They have really cool opening doors though.
 
Capitolron said:
Has anyone seen this Mideval Cog up close ??

Would K&C Crusaders go in it OK?

Is this ship the right type of ship for the Crusaders ??

Questions ???, Questions ???? :confused::confused:

HELP !
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I had the Cog delivered here about three weeks ago, I'm blown away by it. But it sits in the box in the basement, as the wife doesn't know I have it in the house.:cool: Some day......


The K&C Crusaders are made in 1/32 scale, I believe, same as the Cog. But the stands depict a earth setting, and the Cog is wood plank. But I could overlook this.

Yes the Cog is correct for the Crusaders, but I don't think there was ever a Cog discovered ( dug up ) from this 1100-1300AD era to compair.

I have some of the K&C Crusaders in mind for it.:)


IXEC
 
Hi IXEC,

I think one of the things that makes the Conte cog okay for the Crusade era is the fact it still has side oars for steering rather than a rudder which appeared later on.

I have started to try and accumulate figures that work with the cog. Perhaps we could share which ones we think work well. I agree the sand bases are not ideal but they don't bother much.

Here are the figures I own so far that work:
MK002 (ignore the bloody sword), MK003, MK013 (I should get another), MK017, MK052

Here are a couple more I'd like to get:
MK009, MK012, the spear guy in MK025 catapult (but I don't want to buy the whole set)

MK010 would also work but he looks too creepy for my tastes.

I have also wondered whether one could use some of the guys in MK026 to climb the ship's rigging - however with their swords drawn they might look a bit strange

I also got Conte's WAL016 set on sale (unfortunately one guy came with a broken and missing sword) in order to get the archer and spear-chucker. They are a tiny bit smaller than the K&C figures but they look fine.

Conte says they may do some more crew eventually. If anyone knows of any other manufacturers (aside from the expensive Russians) that produce Crusaders that are the same scale as K&C, I'd love to hear.
 
Canadian Samurai said:
Hi IXEC,

I think one of the things that makes the Conte cog okay for the Crusade era is the fact it still has side oars for steering rather than a rudder which appeared later on.

I have started to try and accumulate figures that work with the cog. Perhaps we could share which ones we think work well. I agree the sand bases are not ideal but they don't bother much.

Here are the figures I own so far that work:
MK002 (ignore the bloody sword), MK003, MK013 (I should get another), MK017, MK052

Here are a couple more I'd like to get:
MK009, MK012, the spear guy in MK025 catapult (but I don't want to buy the whole set)

MK010 would also work but he looks too creepy for my tastes.

I have also wondered whether one could use some of the guys in MK026 to climb the ship's rigging - however with their swords drawn they might look a bit strange

I also got Conte's WAL016 set on sale (unfortunately one guy came with a broken and missing sword) in order to get the archer and spear-chucker. They are a tiny bit smaller than the K&C figures but they look fine.

Conte says they may do some more crew eventually. If anyone knows of any other manufacturers (aside from the expensive Russians) that produce Crusaders that are the same scale as K&C, I'd love to hear.
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Hello CS,

I think all of the figures you mentioned would fit great with the Conte's Cog.
I to wounder about the climbing knights, but the hornblower in the crows nets is a must.

I kind of like the standing figures. And the one's with banners. There aren't to many like that out yet. I like these poses as though there coming into, or leaving a port. But an all out ship to ship battle, ( Conte's Viking ship ) or even two Cogs together is bound to impress.

I to would love to have the promised crewmen by Conte.

IXEC
 
Guys - I agree with the list of figures - they are all great !

I guess I need to get one of these bad boys - sure would like to see in hand first - but, if you guys think it works for the Crusades - I will make the investment.
 
Canadian Samurai said:
That's exactly where I put my horn blower - in the crow's nest. :)
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Say CS,

How's the paint job on the sail, mine has somewhat uneven ( wavy ) red paint for the crosses. Are your crosses painted with crisp strait edges? I also have some missed brush stokes on the inside of my sail. I'm not sure if this is the standered on these sails, or if mine was painted on a Friday. :confused:

IXEC
 
Hi Inex,

My crosses are pretty darn straight and I am happy with them. But I would not quite call them crisp. The crosses are clearly handpainted without use of a stencil. I can only assume this was intentional to convey the look that it is an improvised addition to the sail. I agree though that it would have looked better if it was slightly crisper with a consistent density of red paint.

On the inside of my sail there are subdued white splotches and one faint blue streak. I think this is their attempt at weathering. Personally I think it looks good.

Overall I am very happy with the quality of my Cog, including painting and materials. I did however manage to snap one of the fragile resin lines that connects the rope ladders leading up to the crows nest to the deck of the ship. If you haven't assembled yours yet, make sure to attach the large rope ladders first before hooking down the strings that connect the sail to the deck of the ship. And yes, it is hard, but there is enough slack in the strings to get them hooked down. That was the only tough part of assembly. Hopefully my description is clear - it is hard to describe in words.
 
Canadian Samurai said:
Hi Inex,

My crosses are pretty darn straight and I am happy with them. But I would not quite call them crisp. The crosses are clearly handpainted without use of a stencil. I can only assume this was intentional to convey the look that it is an improvised addition to the sail. I agree though that it would have looked better if it was slightly crisper with a consistent density of red paint.

On the inside of my sail there are subdued white splotches and one faint blue streak. I think this is their attempt at weathering. Personally I think it looks good.

Overall I am very happy with the quality of my Cog, including painting and materials. I did however manage to snap one of the fragile resin lines that connects the rope ladders leading up to the crows nest to the deck of the ship. If you haven't assembled yours yet, make sure to attach the large rope ladders first before hooking down the strings that connect the sail to the deck of the ship. And yes, it is hard, but there is enough slack in the strings to get them hooked down. That was the only tough part of assembly. Hopefully my description is clear - it is hard to describe in words.
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Yes CS, my sail is exactly as you discribed. I to am happy now with the look of it, and your assembly tip, thanks.

Now looking at the possible addition of MK026 ( ladder guys ), I don't think it's a good idea. I saw these guys on display at the local hobby store and the weight of them completely warped the ladder that came with them over time. There weight would do the same to the rope ladder, or worse. I also have the Roman Galley and the guys climbing the rope ladders on it are made of plastic. I see this as a good call of Richards use of materials here.

IXEC
 
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