Most accurately replicated Custer figure in 54 to 60mm (1 Viewer)

[HistoryfortheAges]

Does anyone have any idea who makes or has made the most accurate Custer figure? What's your opinion on the new Blackhawk Custer figure purported to be manufactured by Andrea? Thanks.

 

[damian]

The most accurate Custer ever made was Errol Flynn in They died with their boots on. The myth and reality are so intertwined that I wonder if we will ever be able to get a realistic inmage of Custer.

 

[jazzeum]

Damian with the jokes again

The only Custers that I know (and I'll grant you my knowledge is limited) are the K & C version and the new one coming out from Michigan.

However, here's an ebay list of Custers for sale, http://search-desc.ebay.com/search/...=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fgtp=

Before you know which is the best, you have to know the universe of choices.

 

[Warrior]

I've had the pleasure of seeing the Andrea one (I will be carrying this line), and it is terrific.

My father, who is quite the avid reader of all things Little Big Horn, was quick to point out the bugler figure in the upcoming Andrea series is an error as the bugler was gone before the battle started, I know Pugio will back me on this one.............

Regards,
George
www.mmtoysoldiers.com

 

[maddadicus]

I've had the pleasure of seeing the Andrea one (I will be carrying this line), and it is terrific.

My father, who is quite the avid reader of all things Little Big Horn, was quick to point out the bugler figure in the upcoming Andrea series is an error as the bugler was gone before the battle started, I know Pugio will back me on this one.............

Regards,
George
www.mmtoysoldiers.com

As big a Custer buff that I am, I would have thought each troop had its own bugler. Some accounts state that a bugle could be heard during the battle...Now I am going to have to catch up on what I thought I knew of the battle.....Michael

 

[damian]

Was that not perhaps Flashman who spent most of teh battle blubbering and sobbing trying to hide underneath an injure horse. At one point he screamed out don't kill me I'm English.
Regards
Damian Clarke

 

[The Lt.]

Here I go again with my infamous quote a picture is worth a thousand words. The following is a casting from the Little Big Horn Series by Bugle and Guidon back in 1973. It's from their Kit Set BG-07 General G.A. Custer. I've been corrected for using the title General for at the time Custer was a Colonel but the kit has him listed as a General. I modifide the figure by replacing the the field glasses he was holding with a pistol.He had removed his buckskin jacket or blouse and his long hair had been cut.......The Lt.

 

[pugio]

As big a Custer buff that I am, I would have thought each troop had its own bugler. Some accounts state that a bugle could be heard during the battle...Now I am going to have to catch up on what I thought I knew of the battle.....Michael

custer's bugler was sent to benteen with the 'famous note' and didnt get back to custer... reno, benteen and their surviving soldiers heard a bugle, but then realized that it was only being blown by a sioux/cheyenne warrior. the bugle was probaly taken in battle a few days before at the fight on the rosebud ( if my memory serves me right)... could be mistaken...

 

[maddadicus]

custer's bugler was sent to benteen with the 'famous note' and didnt get back to custer... reno, benteen and their surviving soldiers heard a bugle, but then realized that it was only being blown by a sioux/cheyenne warrior. the bugle was probaly taken in battle a few days before at the fight on the rosebud ( if my memory serves me right)... could be mistaken...

So for the entire 7th, there would have been only one bugler? What would have been a typical makeup of a troop..ie: officers, non-coms,standards,and buglers,enlisted men and their usual numbers? Michael

 

[pugio]

So for the entire 7th, there would have been only one bugler? What would have been a typical makeup of a troop..ie: officers, non-coms,standards,and buglers,enlisted men and their usual numbers? Michael

michael, going to check my books today and come back with an answer. thanks for the mission, andy

 

[pugio]

michael, going to check my books today and come back with an answer. thanks for the mission, andy

just fast checked 4 reference books, the only mention of bugles is john martin (martini)... in 'boots and saddles at the little big horn' a chapter is dedicated to 'flags'... "the seventh cavalry had 14 flags when it went into action at the little big horn- the regimental standard, general custer's personal flag and the guidons of each of the 12 companies." ... still checking

 

[pugio]

So for the entire 7th, there would have been only one bugler? What would have been a typical makeup of a troop..ie: officers, non-coms,standards,and buglers,enlisted men and their usual numbers? Michael

finally found info on bugles at the little big horn in magazine 'by valor & arms' the journal of american military history, custer centennial issue. one article 'little big horn surviver' by mike koury states "it is the only known surviving bugle from custer's last fight. nothing is known about the bugle prior to its being found on the custer battlefield. it is unmarked except for a date, "1875".... in 'fyfe, drum and bugle' the old army press 1971, there is an article on john martin. it states 'including the new bugler, martin, one of company h's two'... so according to this article, every company of the 7th had at least 1 or 2 buglers...

 

[Dragoon]

Giovanni Martini, aka John Martin, the man who carried the famous last note to Benteen was a trumpeter but on the day of the battle he was detailed as an orderly to G. A. Custer. The new upcoming Black Hawk figure could be a trumpeter from any of the five companies under Custer's command who might have made it up Last Stand Hill, but most likey it is Henry Voss, who was Chief Trumpeter and part of the 7th HQ staff.

 

[pugio]

Giovanni Martini, aka John Martin, the man who carried the famous last note to Benteen was a trumpeter but on the day of the battle he was detailed as an orderly to G. A. Custer. The new upcoming Black Hawk figure could be a trumpeter from any of the five companies under Custer's command who might have made it up Last Stand Hill, but most likey it is Henry Voss, who was Chief Trumpeter and part of the 7th HQ staff.

you're right... totally forgot about him......

 

[Dragoon]

Pugio, Sounds like you have a great interest in this period. I picked up a terrific book at a gallery called Sherwoods in Santa Fe last summer. It's titled; G.A. Custer His Life and Times, by Glenwood Swanson. It's pretty pricey but well worth it. Clearest and cleanest printing of historical photos I've ever seen, and some good insightful writing too.

 

[pugio]

Pugio, Sounds like you have a great interest in this period. I picked up a terrific book at a gallery called Sherwoods in Santa Fe last summer. It's titled; G.A. Custer His Life and Times, by Glenwood Swanson. It's pretty pricey but well worth it. Clearest and cleanest printing of historical photos I've ever seen, and some good insightful writing too.

dragoon, just went on the barnes and noble website to order the book, not available except thru authorized secondary market... one was $100 (may order it) and the other dealer had it listed as $550.... every year about this time, for whatever reason, my thoughts alway seem to rest on custer and the little big horn. am now re-reading a historical novel 'a road we do not know' by frederick chiaventone... very good read, not so much about custer, but the men serving under him....

 

[maddadicus]

I think this might be a good opening for opinions on Custer ( for or against ) I have Custers Luck, Crazy Horse and Custer, Monaghans Custer, and Son of Morning Star. It is amazing how each author inteprets the aura arround Custer.....I tend to be a Reno apoligist, so that might explain what side of the fence I am on........Michael