Painting Goreham's Rangers French & Indian War (1 Viewer)

[END TIMES]

Hi, I need some advice in painting Goreham's Rangers or any other Ranger company besides Roger's Rangers. Thanks, Mike

 

[mikemiller1955]

this may help with some of the accessories...they should be similar regarding any Ranger outfit...

 

[END TIMES]

this may help with some of the accessories...they should be similar regarding any Ranger outfit...

Thanks for your help, been reading a couple of sites and I'm getting different colors ranging from grey, black to brown with different facings. Mainly from different years they were in action, probably will mix all of these colors in and stay with the one that looks the best. Plus the different types of hats.

 

[johnnybach]

Hi Mike (END TIMES). As you say - there are a few differing uniforms for this group of men - depending on the year chosen. Have a look at Tedtoys version of a Goreham's Ranger in 1759 (Number 43088). Scroll down to it.

http://www.tedtoy.com/britains_classics.htm

Another version is this Brownish version dated from 1761.

You might know this one - but gives a good background to the unit - and some more info on uniforms too.
http://web.archive.org/web/20011030075804/digitalhistory.org/gorham.html

My best advice is have a look at all options you can find. Choose the one you like the best. THEN pick a date for it - and go with that.

I'm looking for a Royal Marine uniform from 1759 too (there were a few with Wolfe at Quebec). If you come across an illustration - please let me know! Best of luck - johnnybach

 

[END TIMES]

Hi Mike (END TIMES). As you say - there are a few differing uniforms for this group of men - depending on the year chosen. Have a look at Tedtoys version of a Goreham's Ranger in 1759 (Number 43088). Scroll down to it.

http://www.tedtoy.com/britains_classics.htm

Another version is this Brownish version dated from 1761.

You might know this one - but gives a good background to the unit - and some more info on uniforms too.
http://web.archive.org/web/20011030075804/digitalhistory.org/gorham.html

My best advice is have a look at all options you can find. Choose the one you like the best. THEN pick a date for it - and go with that.

I'm looking for a Royal Marine uniform from 1759 too (there were a few with Wolfe at Quebec). If you come across an illustration - please let me know! Best of luck - johnnybach

Hi, Thanks. I remembered that I had some books, mainly on the American Revolution or later. But I did find a few pictures of Goreham's Rangers. I will post this tomorrow or later. Sorry, didn't find anything about the Royal Marines ) =

 

[johnnybach]

Hi again Mike. No problem about RM c.1759 - I do have a very smallish set of pics. As to Gorehams Rangers - have a look for an Imrie Rislie model soldier as well circa 1758. This shows a ranger in a tan coloured coat, whitish leggings and a blue bonnet. (see below) johnnybach

http://www.histomin.com/wpphotos/gpirc/gpircfiw.htm

 

[END TIMES]

Hi again Mike. No problem about RM c.1759 - I do have a very smallish set of pics. As to Gorehams Rangers - have a look for an Imrie Rislie model soldier as well circa 1758. This shows a ranger in a tan coloured coat, whitish leggings and a blue bonnet. (see below) johnnybach

http://www.histomin.com/wpphotos/gpirc/gpircfiw.htm

Thanks, here are some of the pictures that I found in some old books that I have.

 

[johnnybach]

Looks like you have enough there to complete your Goreham's Rangers in at least three versions of their uniforms. You have the version shown by Imrie-Rislie as 1758. Then you have the Blue/black version of 1759 - and finally the version with the reversible red/brown jacket of 1761. The legs can be spatterdashes or buckskin trousers - as this part of Ranger uniform was pretty much as they wanted to wear. Complete the uniform with a hat with oak leaves attached/painted on - and you are just about there. Got enough???? jb

 

[END TIMES]

Looks like you have enough there to complete your Goreham's Rangers in at least three versions of their uniforms. You have the version shown by Imrie-Rislie as 1758. Then you have the Blue/black version of 1759 - and finally the version with the reversible red/brown jacket of 1761. The legs can be spatterdashes or buckskin trousers - as this part of Ranger uniform was pretty much as they wanted to wear. Complete the uniform with a hat with oak leaves attached/painted on - and you are just about there. Got enough???? jb

Yep, think I have a plan now. Looking to get something different together. Been a way from the hobby for about 5 years now, picking a few things here and there. But started painting again this year. Forgot I had these books, thought they we American Revolution books. Here is a website that I had up years ago, and started updating it again. If I come across anything about the Royal Marines. I'll post it here. Thanks again, Mike

http://www.angelfire.com/pa5/warhorse/War.html

 

[theBaron]

I may the I/R painting card--along with the kit--in my stash, I can have a look and scan it, too. That's the one that shows the Ranger in full stride, towards the viewer's left.

We probably have enough images to make a post in our Uniform Reference section, too. This is all very useful info for all of us painters.

John, from which book are your scans? I'd like to add it to my wish list and track it down, thanks is advance.

Prost!
Brad

 

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I may the I/R painting card--along with the kit--in my stash, I can have a look and scan it, too. That's the one that shows the Ranger in full stride, towards the viewer's left.

We probably have enough images to make a post in our Uniform Reference section, too. This is all very useful info for all of us painters.

John, from which book are your scans? I'd like to add it to my wish list and track it down, thanks is advance.

Prost!
Brad

Hi Baron, the scans are from two different books that I have. I'll post the names tomorrow, or after I get home from work. Forgot I had those books, oh well. Answered my own question, lol.

 

[PolarBear]

Goreham's Ranger 1759
One of the companies of rangers that would accompany Wolfe in September of 1759 against Montcalm and the French at Quebec. He is shown here in late March (wearing the Ranger Uniform for Quebec Campaign) of that year as part of a skirmish party in the northern woods. Osprey (Colonial American Troops 1610-1774 Vol. 3) illustration (see # 1 & 2) and Britains figure

 

[theBaron]

Evening, all! Here's the card I was talking about, and which you may have seen:



though I realize that this depicts one of Rogers' Rangers, so it's not directly relevant.

Apologies for the pixilated image, my scanner is acting up again.

Actually, it looks like an old paint-by-numbers piece...

 

[johnnybach]

Good idea Brad - to put what has been collected into a the Uniform thread for future use. Want to do it before it all gets swallowed up and lost again? Maybe include the Britains and I-R figures too - as examples of previously made TS??? jb

 

[END TIMES]

I may the I/R painting card--along with the kit--in my stash, I can have a look and scan it, too. That's the one that shows the Ranger in full stride, towards the viewer's left.

We probably have enough images to make a post in our Uniform Reference section, too. This is all very useful info for all of us painters.

John, from which book are your scans? I'd like to add it to my wish list and track it down, thanks is advance.

Prost!
Brad

Hi Brad, here are the 2 books that I got those pictures from. Armies of The American Wars 1755-1815 by Philip Katcher and Military Unifoms In America, The Era of the American Revolution 1755-1795 by The Company of Military Historians.

 

[END TIMES]

Hi Mike (END TIMES). As you say - there are a few differing uniforms for this group of men - depending on the year chosen. Have a look at Tedtoys version of a Goreham's Ranger in 1759 (Number 43088). Scroll down to it.

http://www.tedtoy.com/britains_classics.htm

Another version is this Brownish version dated from 1761.

You might know this one - but gives a good background to the unit - and some more info on uniforms too.
http://web.archive.org/web/20011030075804/digitalhistory.org/gorham.html

My best advice is have a look at all options you can find. Choose the one you like the best. THEN pick a date for it - and go with that.

I'm looking for a Royal Marine uniform from 1759 too (there were a few with Wolfe at Quebec). If you come across an illustration - please let me know! Best of luck - johnnybach

I came across something that might help about the Royal Marines. Was interested when you mention them and searched, until I found something.

http://www.cmhg.gc.ca/cmh/image-214-eng.asp?page_id=250



Officer and marines, Corps of Marines, 1755-1765

The Corps of Marines (known as the 'Royal Marines' after 1802) was raised in 1755 and provided the soldiers to serve on board Royal Navy ships. During the sieges of Louisbourg and Quebec, many marines served on land with the besieging army. The officers had tricorns and the enlisted marines mitre-shaped caps like those of grenadiers but smaller. (Library of the Canadian Department of National Defence)

Also, I came across this too from http://royalmarinesonline.com/Uniforms.php

"From the establishment of a permanent corps of Marine Regiments in 1755 to 1802, red coats with white facings were worn. The normal headdress was a tricorn (later bicorne hat and the overall appearance closely resembled that of the Army's Regiments of Foot. Grenadier companies were issued with fur hats for land service only during the American War of Independence."

 

[johnnybach]

Thanks for the picture of "The Corps of Marines" - which will be very useful for some detail on my Marines.

This is the only pic I had - which was on the web-site of the maker of the castings (Tommy Atkins). I wasn't too sure how accurate they were. I note already that the crown is missing from the mitre cap - which the officer is also shown to be wearing.

 

[END TIMES]

Thanks for the picture of "The Corps of Marines" - which will be very useful for some detail on my Marines.

This is the only pic I had - which was on the web-site of the maker of the castings (Tommy Atkins). I wasn't too sure how accurate they were. I note already that the crown is missing from the mitre cap - which the officer is also shown to be wearing.

I did a little more searching and found this website. It shows plates of the Royal Marines from 1742, here are some of the pictures. Might be useful too. 1st to 5th Regiment.

 

[END TIMES]

Thanks for the picture of "The Corps of Marines" - which will be very useful for some detail on my Marines.

This is the only pic I had - which was on the web-site of the maker of the castings (Tommy Atkins). I wasn't too sure how accurate they were. I note already that the crown is missing from the mitre cap - which the officer is also shown to be wearing.

6th to 10th Regiment.

 

[END TIMES]

Thanks for the picture of "The Corps of Marines" - which will be very useful for some detail on my Marines.

This is the only pic I had - which was on the web-site of the maker of the castings (Tommy Atkins). I wasn't too sure how accurate they were. I note already that the crown is missing from the mitre cap - which the officer is also shown to be wearing.

Here is some other pictures too, lol. Seems that the regiments were raised and then disband often until 1755. when they became regular standing part of the forces.