Photo Opportunity: BMs with the Jacobite Scots (1 Viewer)

Fraxinus

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Suprised someone has not posted a photo yet. I was thinking BM Flags, BM-06s, BM-10s, a BM-13 and charging Scots at close quarters. Ten Years before the Battle of the Monongahela. Should work well in a curio.

From a really a good web page --- http://www.britishbattles.com/most-massacred.htm


Britain's Most Massacred Regiments

British Regiments massacred in battle during the 18th and 19th Centuries: Pride of place must go to the 44th Foot, later the Essex Regiment and now the Royal Anglian Regiment, massacred on three occasions.

The 44th, as Lee’s Regiment, formed part of Sir John Cope’s army annihilated at the battle of Prestonpans on 21st September 1745 by Prince Charles Edward Stuart’s highlanders. Almost all the infantry were killed, wounded or captured. The other regiments massacred by the highlanders at Prestonpans were the 6th (now the Royal Regiment of Fusiliers), 46th (now the Light Infantry) and 47th (now the Queen’s Lancashire Regiment).

Almost exactly 10 years later on 9th July 1755, the 44th, commanded by Colonel Sir John Halkett, who as lieutenant colonel had commanded the regiment and been taken prisoner at Prestonpans, was part of Major General Edward Braddock’s force massacred by the Indians fighting for France on the Monongahela River, in what is now Western Pennsylvania. Halkett and his son died in the battle with many of his officers and soldiers. The other regiment massacred in the battle was the 48th (now also the Royal Anglian Regiment). Braddock was killed by the Indians.

44th Foot at Gandamak

In August 1840, the 44th was part of General Sale’s ill-fated army in the First Afghan War. The army was forced to retreat from Kabul pursued by the Afghans in strength. At Gandamak in the Afghan mountains the 44th Regiment was annihilated.

OTHER REGIMENTS

The 24th Foot was massacred by the Zulus at the battle of Isandlwana on 22nd January 1879. Caught unawares by the sudden attack of the Zulu army, the 1st Battalion, 24th Foot, failed to take up the square formation essential against the overwhelming number of Zulu warriors and were wiped out to a man. The successor regiment to the 24th Foot is the Royal Regiment of Wales.


The 66th Foot was massacred at the battle of Maiwand by the Ghazis on 27th July 1880 in the Third Afghan War; one of the few survivors being a dog called “Bobbie”. In 1882 the regiment, or what was left of it, became the 1st Battalion of the Royal Berkshire Regiment. Two massive stone lions in Forbury Park, Reading, the county town of Berkshire, inscribed with the names of the fallen commemorate the battle. The regiment is now embodied in the Royal Gloucestershire, Berkshire and Wiltshire Regiment.

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As a postscript....
'Upon arrival back in England Bobbie was presented to Queen Victoria along with several soldiers of the 66th (Berkshire) Regiment who received their Distinguished Conduct Orders.

Unfortunately a year later Bobbie was accidentally run over and killed by a hansom cab in Gosport. He was stuffed and can be seen today at the regimental museum in Salisbury, decorated with an unknown soldier's Afghan War medal'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobbiehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobbie
 
Despite the startling title,I do wish you'd post more often Fraxinus-I value your awareness & sense of history .
Best,John
 
Fraxinus,

That's a good link, I stumbled onto that a while back, but it was a good read again.

Apparently, the 44th had an illustrious career, but some horrendous defeats.

Michael

PS...that would make a good scene though.
 
Suprised someone has not posted a photo yet. I was thinking BM Flags, BM-06s, BM-10s, a BM-13 and charging Scots at close quarters. Ten Years before the Battle of the Monongahela. Should work well in a curio.

From a really a good web page --- http://www.britishbattles.com/most-massacred.htm


Britain's Most Massacred Regiments

British Regiments massacred in battle during the 18th and 19th Centuries: Pride of place must go to the 44th Foot, later the Essex Regiment and now the Royal Anglian Regiment, massacred on three occasions.

The 44th, as Lee’s Regiment, formed part of Sir John Cope’s army annihilated at the battle of Prestonpans on 21st September 1745 by Prince Charles Edward Stuart’s highlanders. Almost all the infantry were killed, wounded or captured. The other regiments massacred by the highlanders at Prestonpans were the 6th (now the Royal Regiment of Fusiliers), 46th (now the Light Infantry) and 47th (now the Queen’s Lancashire Regiment).

Almost exactly 10 years later on 9th July 1755, the 44th, commanded by Colonel Sir John Halkett, who as lieutenant colonel had commanded the regiment and been taken prisoner at Prestonpans, was part of Major General Edward Braddock’s force massacred by the Indians fighting for France on the Monongahela River, in what is now Western Pennsylvania. Halkett and his son died in the battle with many of his officers and soldiers. The other regiment massacred in the battle was the 48th (now also the Royal Anglian Regiment). Braddock was killed by the Indians.

44th Foot at Gandamak

In August 1840, the 44th was part of General Sale’s ill-fated army in the First Afghan War. The army was forced to retreat from Kabul pursued by the Afghans in strength. At Gandamak in the Afghan mountains the 44th Regiment was annihilated.

OTHER REGIMENTS

The 24th Foot was massacred by the Zulus at the battle of Isandlwana on 22nd January 1879. Caught unawares by the sudden attack of the Zulu army, the 1st Battalion, 24th Foot, failed to take up the square formation essential against the overwhelming number of Zulu warriors and were wiped out to a man. The successor regiment to the 24th Foot is the Royal Regiment of Wales.


The 66th Foot was massacred at the battle of Maiwand by the Ghazis on 27th July 1880 in the Third Afghan War; one of the few survivors being a dog called “Bobbie”. In 1882 the regiment, or what was left of it, became the 1st Battalion of the Royal Berkshire Regiment. Two massive stone lions in Forbury Park, Reading, the county town of Berkshire, inscribed with the names of the fallen commemorate the battle. The regiment is now embodied in the Royal Gloucestershire, Berkshire and Wiltshire Regiment.

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What a brilliant post.
This is much more like the kind of thing I want to read and contribute to on this forum. I didn't know Halkett was killed at the Monongahela River.

Thanks very much for this post and I look forward to more of the same.

Regards
Harry
 
Suprised someone has not posted a photo yet. I was thinking BM Flags, BM-06s, BM-10s, a BM-13 and charging Scots at close quarters. Ten Years before the Battle of the Monongahela. Should work well in a curio.

Fraxinus,

That is a great idea, I just read up on that battle on a different website.

Poor 44th.

I would love to do that, I have the figures.

But what is a BM-13?:eek::eek:

Please don't tell me I missed another one.
 
Do not worry Mike, just my poor memory again, BM - 13 reference should have been a BM 14.
 
Do not worry Mike, just my poor memory again, BM - 13 reference should have been a BM 14.

Oh Thank God Fraxinus,

I thought another one had slipped by me somehow.

It's weird and I don't understand it, but John sometimes skips a number in a series here and there.

What is the most "up to date", most comprehensive and most complete website around, of what he has offered so far?

http://www.johnjenkinsdesigns.com/ seems like the best source, but it does need to be updated.

I don't see the newest releases or the Whaleboats on there.

I mean, I want to know what website shows what's currently retired, has a photo, has an original msrp, shows limited edition, etc...etc...etc...

Is there a John Jenkin's newsletter I can subscribe too?
 
This is the most up to date that I know.SSORC1 and Aussie Monty also have detailed records.
Mark
 

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