Rare Wooden Sd Kfz 231 (1 Viewer)

[jazzeum]

Peter Lalos just listed this on eBay. It's a wooden vehicle I've never seen before, not even in Louis' collection. Obviously, quite rare.

 

[hotel3alpha]

Jazz, yes very rare and very expensive at 3K, but also very nice. Peter comes up with some doozies!

John from Texas

 

[MarkeytMaker]

Yes...I'm fascinated with Peter's ability to come up with such gems. I sometimes wonder if Peter is Andy {eek3}

 

[hotel3alpha]

MM,

Peter is very real and a class act Gent. Spoken to him on the phone and I don't think Andy could imitate the East Coast accent. I have purchased items from him before for full pop, sold him some items and made a few deal-deals. He sent me pictures of a part of his collection once and all I can say is that it look like his house is a KC museum.

John from Texas

 

[ddchan]

This armoured car was produced by K&C in 1996 and priced at US$256 according the Toy Soldier Picture Books Vol 1.

It was made of resin instead of wood.

 

[hotel3alpha]

Are you sure brother?

John from Texas

 

[ddchan]

Are you sure brother?

John from Texas

hi John,

as said in my reply according to the Picture book by Louis B it was made of resin. They were produced at the same time with the US$750 German 88mm gun and tractor.

 

[peter8213]

hi John,

as said in my reply according to the Picture book by Louis B it was made of resin. They were produced at the same time with the US$750 German 88mm gun and tractor.

That info seems correct to me because I purchased the vehicle, a jeep and the above mentioned tractor (Prime Mover, I think) & the 88MM Gun from the same seller. The Jeep that I have (and the jeep is listed on EBAY) is pictured in one or two of the Arnhem brochures. I was led to believe that a few features of all the vehicles that I purchased have some wood component to them.

I can not begin to tell you how fragile these vehicles are. I have spent a considerable amount of money repairing/restoring the vehicles. The 88MM gun is like a jigsaw puzzle. I purchased these K&C pieces from a seller in Asia. Nothing survived the shipping process undamaged. No fault of the seller as he did a very good job shipping them. They are just so fragile. My repair guy has had the Prime Mover & 88MM gun for close to 6 months trying to restore them as best as he can. I think when all is said and done, my repair bill will be running neck and neck with my purchase cost.

I will post the Prime Mover & 88MM Gun on ebay when they come back to my camp. Hopefully by May/June, if not earlier.

And a word about my pricing - I really don't expect to sell any of the vehicles due to my pricing and also due to the fact that I have no desire to ship them - I can't imagine any surviving the shipment process. But given the fact that more recent versions of the Sd Kfz 231 sell for 200/300, and are somewhat easy to locate, part me would like to think that my asking price is not totally off the wall. I have no idea how many of any of these vehicles exist. I can't imagine many. I am sure that there are at least a handful world wide and to say more than a dozen or so...I don't know. Then again, as rare as the this vehicle is, finding someone who values this as much as I do, in terms of pricing/money, might be rarer. I did pay a sinful amount for this vehicle (and the other ones), but I smile each and every time I look it - which is everyday, as I pass it on my way to my office.

We all have done crazy things and in some cases paid a little too much for something. I certainly have done myself numerous times. It certainly is the case when I was offered & purchased these Arnhem vehicles. You get offered things and you think, if I don't buy them now, I may never see them again. The fear of never seeing the item again makes some do crazy things.

A friend of mine who comes over the house often, never fails to point out to me one of my favorite pieces and without fail always mentions the crazy expensive trade that I made to acquire the piece - this should be a thread in itself which I am sure everyone can contribute.

I had the opportunity a few years ago to purchase some great K&C Wood Planes. I paid strongly for them. My wife was pretty upset with me. I managed to sell most of them and kept about a half dozen for myself. About a year or so later, I was able to purchase 2 other planes at a more reasonable price. When the planes arrived, there was some issues with the planes and I was about to return them because of the condition issues. I don't recall the particulars, but a board member here contacted me at about the same time regarding one of the planes that I had from my original purchase of K&C planes, a P-38. He wanted to make a trade. It just so happen that one of the two planes that I purchased and was thinking of returning was another P-38. Now the P-38 from my original purchase was drop dead MINT. The other P-38 from the more recent purchase was not MINT and I think I paid about 500/600. I really did not want to keep the second one, even though I was paying substantially less. I made a couple of calls to a second opinion on the trade that I was thinking of making. I explained what I had paid for the P-38 (the first that was going to be part of the trade) and both my advisors told me not to do it, as I was given up too much in this trade. The figure that I wanted was not worth anything close to the plane I was trading away, and certainly not worth the money that I had laid out for the plane. My thought was, when will I ever get a chance at this figure again. Needless to say for about 3 days I owned two P-38s and shortly thereafter, I made the trade.

. Today I own one slightly off-grade P-38 and also own, in my opinion, the best glossy figure ever produced by K&C - The King of Rock-N-Roll, Elvis Presley with his kick-*** blue suede shoes. Never thought I'd see one again.



Peter

 

[jazzeum]

As the person who owned the Elvis, I remember it a little differently :wink2:

There had been a thread about the Beatles set (started by Peter I think) and during the course of the thread I posted a photo of Elvis and either I hinted that I would trade it for the right set or Peter asked if I would be interested in selling it or trading it. Whatever the reason we started talking and the trade was eventually made.

However, it was not a one for one and I had to include (i) a Seaforths or similar set and (ii) a mounted RCMP to sweeten the pot. When I acquired the Elvis, I had the chance to acquire the Elvis or the Beatles set but not both. I opted for the Elvis (as it was a very rare and unusual figure) but neither were cheap (nor was the Seaforth set that was included in the transaction) so to say that it was a "crazy expensive trade" or he didn't get equal value for the P38 is not correct or a case of buyer's remorse.

He received Elvis and some great other sets (all mint) and I received a great airplane and I've never thought about it remorsefully. Each side got what they wanted as he wanted a unique figure and I like the K & C airplanes; I have 16 so far.

As an aside, I note that Peter now has the Elvis on sale for $2,499.

Brad

 

[peter8213]

As the person who owned the Elvis, I remember it a little differently :wink2:

There had been a thread about the Beatles set (started by Peter I think) and during the course of the thread I posted a photo of Elvis and either I hinted that I would trade it for the right set or Peter asked if I would be interested in selling it or trading it. Whatever the reason we started talking and the trade was eventually made.

However, it was not a one for one and I had to include (i) a Seaforths or similar set and (ii) a mounted RCMP to sweeten the pot. When I acquired the Elvis, I had the chance to acquire the Elvis or the Beatles set but not both. I opted for the Elvis (as it was a very rare and unusual figure) but neither were cheap (nor was the Seaforth set that was included in the transaction) so to say that it was a "crazy expensive trade" or he didn't get equal value for the P38 is not correct or a case of buyer's remorse.

He received Elvis and some great other sets (all mint) and I received a great airplane and I've never thought about it remorsefully. Each side got what they wanted as he wanted a unique figure and I like the K & C airplanes; I have 16 so far.

As an aside, I note that Peter now has the Elvis on sale for $2,499.

Brad

Brad

I don't have a memory of the other items that were added into the deal - my recollection is that it was a straight up deal. But I do have a handful Mounted RCMP. So at the very least, I got to think one of those came from you, as your memory of the deal is much better than mine. In my minds eye, factoring in the other figures that I got from you, I have well over a 1K into the Elvis, as the P-38 cost me a hair over 1700. No doubt my most expensive figure. And honestly, I would do the deal with you again in a heartbeat. It is my favorite figure in my collection. And we were both happy with the deal!

Peter

 

[jazzeum]

Peter,

It's a deal I'd definitely do again, which makes it the perfect deal for both of us.

As I love the planes, to me it was a no-brainer.

I feel for you on the others. Been there myself, although nothing quite that rare. I have the greatest repair guy if you ever need him.

Brad