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Russian Second Front.

The entry of the Soviet Union into the war with Japan was predetermined by the agreements that the USSR, Great Britain and the USA concluded in February 1945 during the Yalta Conference, which determined the format of the post-war world. According to these agreements, by the end of the summer of 1945, Soviet troops were to be concentrated near the land borders in the Far East and then launch an attack on the Kwantung Army, which was the largest unit of the Japanese army in the region.


The entry of USSR into a new war immediately after the end of hostilities in the West was a difficult task. Despite the fact that during all the war years, military formations were concentrated on the Far Eastern borders, numbering up to one third of the entire Red Army, the degree of their saturation with modern military equipment and experienced personnel was lower than that of units fighting on the Soviet-German front. And even despite the fact that as early as 1943 the construction of the most important railway line began, connecting Komsomolsk-on-Amur and Sovetskaya Gavan, and the plans for possible military operations against the Japanese group in the Far East began to be developed a year later, by the summer of 1945, the offensive began the Japanese still looked difficult.


This was very well understood by the Allies, especially the Americans. But they could not refuse Soviet assistance in the war with Japan: their own military analysts predicted that in this case the hostilities could last for one and a half to two years, and the loss of the American army if the hostilities were transferred to Japanese territory, including to the islands of the Japanese archipelago, will turn into catastrophic losses. On average, they were estimated at a million soldiers' lives, which was double the total losses already suffered by the country!


Therefore, the question of the entry of the USSR into the war with Japan was extremely important, and its discussion was the reason for the nomination by the Soviet side of the requirements to which the Allies were forced to agree. Among them was the expansion of Soviet influence in China, and the transfer of southern Sakhalin and all the Kuril Islands. But, apparently, it seemed to the Americans and the British a low price for the Soviet troops to pull over a substantial part of the Japanese.


From one war to another

It is possible that, urging the Soviet Union to start a war with Japan and agreeing to the demands voiced in Yalta by the Soviet leader Joseph Stalin, the Allies hoped that Russian troops would get bogged down in battle with the Japanese just like the Allied ones in western France. On the other hand, it was obvious that the preparation of the USSR for the start of hostilities in the Far East would force the Japanese command to stop the transfer of the most combat-ready units from there, which began back in 1944 and significantly influenced the course of battles in the Pacific Ocean.


Already after the Soviet troops reached the coast of the Yellow Sea, it became clear that the Allied command did not expect such a speed from them. For example, American ships, the landing of which was supposed to land in the cities of Dalian and Lushun (founded by Russian sailors in the 19th century, Dalniy and Port Arthur), arrived there after the Soviet paratroopers completely broke the Japanese defense. And this was clearly an unpleasant surprise for the United States, counting on a slightly different development of events and believing that the Red Army, which had gotten stuck in border battles with the Japanese, did not have time to reach the strategically important Chinese and Korean cities, but would pull itself back and allow the American marines to take them under your control.


Parts of the 39th Army of the Transbaikal Front on the march in the Manchu steppe. Colonel General Ivan Lyudnikov, commander of the 39th Army, Colonel General Ivan Ludnikov, is to the extreme right next to the car, Major Hero of the Soviet Union Major Vasily Boyko, member of the Military Council of the 39th Army, is to his left

However, the Soviet side had its own plans for a war with Japan, and most importantly, there was an understanding of how to defeat the Kwantung Army with as little loss as possible. First of all, for this it was necessary to saturate the troops of the Transbaikal Front with modern technology, which was achieved by sending from the Urals to the east part of the new tanks, guns and aircraft. Their flow gradually increased as the start of hostilities was approaching. And when the battles in Europe ended, the colossal group of troops with vast combat experience was quickly transferred to the Far East: 36 rifle, artillery and anti-aircraft artillery divisions, 53 brigades, 5 air divisions, 3 corps


Win in ten days

As a result, by August 8, 1945, 11 combined-arms, one tank and three air armies were concentrated in the Trans-Baikal and 1st and 2nd Far Eastern fronts, consisting of 80 infantry divisions, four tank and mechanized corps, six infantry and 40 tank and mechanized brigades. There were also the Pacific Fleet and the Amur Flotilla. The total number of Soviet troops in the Far Eastern direction was about 1.6 million people, armed with 26137 guns and mortars, 5556 tanks and self-propelled guns and almost 5000 aircraft.


With an overwhelming advantage in manpower and equipment, Soviet troops were able to break the resistance of the Kwantung Army in the shortest possible time and reach the intended borders on the shores of the Yellow Sea in just ten days, completing the defeat of the Japanese. Almost 650 thousand soldiers and officers of the Land of the Rising Sun were captured, and the irretrievable losses were at least twice as high as those on the Soviet side, which made the Manchu Red Army operation one of the most successful in the history of World War II.


On August 14, 1945, the Japanese government decided to surrender, and by August 19, most Japanese units and units threw out white flags. And finally, on September 2, an act of surrender of Japan was signed on board the American battleship Missouri in the presence of representatives of the command of the Allied forces, including Soviet and Chinese. The Soviet Union regained all the losses Russia suffered as a result of the Russo-Japanese War of 1904-1905 and even a little more, considering the South Kuril Islands ceded to the Japanese back in 1855.

Strength

Soviet Union: Japan
1,577,225 men[3] 993,000 men[a]
26,137 artillery 5,360 artillery
1,852 sup. artillery 1,155 tanks
5,556 tanks and self-propelled artillery 1,800 aircraft
5,368 aircraft 1,215 vehicles
Mongolia: Manchukuo:
16,000 men 170,000[1]-200,000 troops[4]
Mengjiang:
44,000 men[1][3]

Total USSR: 1,577,241 men Total Japan: 1,237,000 men

Loses

USSR Japan
12,031 killed 21,389 killed
24,425 wounded[5][6] 20,000 wounded
41,199 captured[7][8]

Soviet claim:
83,737 killed
 

Hi Mirof.

Glad to see you back.

Are you ready to tell everyone how to tell everyone know how 737 deaths and 1,862 casualties became 0.137M lost during USSR common attack with Germany against Poland


By the way do you know that:

18 days
It took place over 18 days in May 1940 and ended with the German occupation of Belgium following the surrender of the Belgian Army.
On 10 May 1940, Germany invaded Luxembourg, the Netherlands, and Belgium under the operational plan Fall Gelb (Case Yellow).

Fascinated!
 
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Hi Mirof.

When I was a child, My dad told me:

A man shall think first before he would say anything.
When a man said something he must stand by what he said.
If a man promiced something he must deliver that.


Looks like your dad didn’t tell you these simple rules.

I’m waiting when would you tell everyone how 737 deaths and 1,862 casualties became 0.137M lost during USSR common attack with Germany against Poland
 
Hi Mirof.

When I was a child, My dad told me:

A man shall think first before he would say anything.
When a man said something he must stand by what he said.
If a man promiced something he must deliver that.


Looks like your dad didn’t tell you these simple rules.

I’m waiting when would you tell everyone how 737 deaths and 1,862 casualties became 0.137M lost during USSR common attack with Germany against Poland

It's a shame that a vociferous few, even if that few is one and only me, should take away the time and happiness of so many consumers and highly creative producers who want to enjoy a hobby after a hard day's work.
 
It's a shame that a vociferous few, even if that few is one and only me, should take away the time and happiness of so many consumers and highly creative producers who want to enjoy a hobby after a hard day's work.

This is not a good place to vent your hatred. This is a place for lively and polite discussions and hobby talk. I have broken the rules of conduct myself, so I can see when others have more keenly. I like Russia and Russians and Belgium and Belgians. To hate is to lose. Seems like this time the Rus started it. Own it. And stop it please, advise from another jerk, p jr. Seriously, toy soldiers are fun
Goodnight and best wishes as possible
 
This is not a good place to vent your hatred. This is a place for lively and polite discussions and hobby talk. I have broken the rules of conduct myself, so I can see when others have more keenly. I like Russia and Russians and Belgium and Belgians. To hate is to lose. Seems like this time the Rus started it. Own it. And stop it please, advise from another jerk, p jr. Seriously, toy soldiers are fun
Goodnight and best wishes as possible


My apologies if I have been rude to anyone.

Honestly, My intention was a friendly discussion about stuff we know and love and I never wanted any fight or abuse.


Kind Regards.
Serge.
 
My apologies if I have been rude to anyone.

Honestly, My intention was a friendly discussion about stuff we know and love and I never wanted any fight or abuse.


Kind Regards.
Serge.
I understand your frustation but if a topic is contentious it is probably best to let it go and talk about football instead. Or even, maybe, toy soldiers. Crazy, I know.
I wish the best for Russia and Texas and everyone but people will only think that you are trying to refight WW2 and maybe even the Cold War. That is what many will think so that's reason enough to talk about how cool K&C's and other companies new nostalgic products are. Nostalgia should not involve the ghosts of the past, only the happy memories. Stol! Pjr
 
I understand your frustation but if a topic is contentious it is probably best to let it go and talk about football instead. Or even, maybe, toy soldiers. Crazy, I know.
I wish the best for Russia and Texas and everyone but people will only think that you are trying to refight WW2 and maybe even the Cold War. That is what many will think so that's reason enough to talk about how cool K&C's and other companies new nostalgic products are. Nostalgia should not involve the ghosts of the past, only the happy memories. Stol! Pjr
I don't want to belittle your views. I only think that other topics would be more appropriate to this forum. Better to leave WW2 alone. Many in the US feel that Russia exploited their honorable role in that war by using their very real Power to threaten the US and the West afterwards. I respect Russia and even the ideals of communism but the Soviets are gone and there is little point to resurecting this old and pointless fued. I took some dippy college courses on this but it was everyone's opinion here that Russia suffered enormous casualties And helped the Allies tremendously. We might all be Nazis if not for Russian Might and Righteousness. But anyway
if we can't be friends and enjoy our miniatures then we are a negative to the hobby. I have been. Don't become a jerk, whether you are right or wrong. After all, we don't want a nuclear holocaust. Well, I hope not LOL. Truly, Best Wishes from the West, PJr
 
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I don't want to belittle your views. I only think that other topics would be more appropriate to this forum. Better to leave WW2 alone. Many in the US feel that Russia exploited their honorable role in that war by using their very real Power to threaten the US and the West afterwards. I respect Russia and even the ideals of communism but the Soviets are gone and there is little point to resurecting this old and pointless fued. I took some dippy college courses on this but it was everyone's opinion here that Russia suffered enormous casualties And helped the Allies tremendously. We might all be Nazis if not for Russian Might and Righteousness. But anyway
if we can't be friends and enjoy our miniatures then we are a negative to the hobby. I have been. Don't become a jerk, whether you are right or wrong. After all, we don't want a nuclear holocaust. Well, I hope not LOL. Truly, Best Wishes from the West, PJr
And yeah I checked those sights and no they are not some scam but your opinion. You may be right. I am far to young to know first-hand . I am not knowledgeable enough to refute any details. But why rewrite History? Most people in the Westknow Russia is a Power to be respected. Even The semi-educated like myself know that Russia has a noble History. Let's all chill friends. Have some caviar and vodka (a joke comrade) and forget all this so that we can all move on, as people and as nations of people. Stol again!
 
I don't want to belittle your views. I only think that other topics would be more appropriate to this forum. Better to leave WW2 alone. Many in the US feel that Russia exploited their honorable role in that war by using their very real Power to threaten the US and the West afterwards. I respect Russia and even the ideals of communism but the Soviets are gone and there is little point to resurecting this old and pointless fued. I took some dippy college courses on this but it was everyone's opinion here that Russia suffered enormous casualties And helped the Allies tremendously. We might all be Nazis if not for Russian Might and Righteousness. But anyway
if we can't be friends and enjoy our miniatures then we are a negative to the hobby. I have been. Don't become a jerk, whether you are right or wrong. After all, we don't want a nuclear holocaust. Well, I hope not LOL. Truly, Best Wishes from the West, PJr

Well, I guess you are right, unfortunately some of the participants of the discussion behaved themself not like a gentlemen.
To be honest I've enormous respect to all veterans of WW2.
Both my grandfathers have fought on Easten Fronts and only one of them succeed to come back to the family in 1945.
Who knows, it possible that my granddad was lucky to stay alive only because your grandfathers did fight Nazis on the West.

Will try to follow your advice.

Kind Regards.
Serge.
 
Oh this is gold! Comedy gold, Jerry, gold!

Dudes having a conversation with himself — and thinks we are fooled....

Riotously funny.

{sm4}{sm4}
 
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