Sherman Tank? (1 Viewer)

It's not my area of expertise, but it appears to be a tank destroyer turret on a Sherman chassis. The red square with the number looks like a British style marking. I would be curious to find out exactly what it is.
 
Looks to be a late war M36 Gun Motor carriage...Nevermind, probably a Firefly..Michael
 
maddadicus said:
Looks to be a late war M36 Gun Motor carriage...Nevermind, probably a Firefly..Michael
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You are correct Michael.M36 Jackson I do believe.Ask Binder, he knows for certain!
The question is, who does the guy in the 18th century pink vest and britches represent?!
Never mind. I dont really care, just being a smart ---.
fub
 
Fubar said:
You are correct Michael.M36 Jackson I do believe.Ask Binder, he knows for certain!
The question is, who does the guy in the 18th century pink vest and britches represent?!
Never mind. I dont really care, just being a smart ---.
fub
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That's "Polish Crimson" like this guy...

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Fubar said:
You are correct Michael.M36 Jackson I do believe.Ask Binder, he knows for certain!
The question is, who does the guy in the 18th century pink vest and britches represent?!
Never mind. I dont really care, just being a smart ---.
fub
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The only problem is that the photo I have of the M36 ,shows a different hull shape, which led me to second guess myself....Michael
 
maddadicus said:
The only problem is that the photo I have of the M36 ,shows a different hull shape, which led me to second guess myself....Michael
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I will bow out to Gary B if he says otherwise, but I think the M36 used both the M10 hull and also later, the M4A3 hull, due to demands for increased production. It looks like the latter in the photo.
Simon
 
Everybody is partially right...

It is a 90mm Gun Motor Carriage M36B1. On a US vehicle the "B" indicates a change to the basic chassis. In this case there was a high demand for more 90mm SP guns in Europe. Production of the M36 was already at full throttle, so 187 M36 open-top turrets with 90mm guns were placed on the chassis of M4A3 tanks. These appear in ETO photos in the drive into Germany in 1945. These were used by Tank Destroyer battalions, not tank units.

Post WW2 there must have been some M36B1s laying around an equipment depot. They were refurbished and sent as part of Military Aid Programs to Iran. Note that this vehicle has a post-war 90mm gun (like that used on the M26A1 and M46 tanks). I think this tank was captured from Iranian forces by the Iraqis. It was then captured from the Iraqis by coalition military forces in 2003-ish. I'm not sure how the Poles got title to it, but they sent it back home to Poland as a souvenier.

There must have been several of these captured. One or two more came home to the USA. I have seen photos of one at Ft. Hood.

A rather rare US combat vehicle, it's nice to see that a couple still exist.

Gary B.
 
Fubar said:
...The question is, who does the guy in the 18th century pink vest and britches represent...
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He's a re-enactor belonging to a group that re-enacts a Prussian regiment from the Seven Years War. If you go back to the photo page, click the View All link, to see all of the pics in the gallery. Most of the pics are from a re-enactment.

There's a color from one of the fusilier regiments in picture 17, Regiment 39 "Brunswick-junior", but that's not the unit the fellow on the tank portrays. I'm checking through my books now; there are several Prussian regiments represented, as well as Freikorps and Jaeger.

The troops in white coats are Saxons, also representing a couple of different units.

There are some good shots of camp set-up, though as with many re-enactments, you have to be carefull to distinguish the authentic from the anachronisms. For example, the tents look about right, from contemporary illustrations. But the little camp stools some of the Prussians had are Ikea, I think.

There's a little map in the margin of the album page, and it looks like this took place outside Sagan, now Zagan, in Silesia in Poland, probably last weekend.

Thanks for the link!

Prost!
Brad
 
Thanks gents. I was curious about the Polish collection as well.
 
The name of the regiment is tantalizingly close to being readable in the one picture, but I can't make it out. It's painted on the canvas Gewehrmantel, the little tent for storing the muskets. The royal monogram is painted on in the regiment's facing and button colors, and just below is a scroll with "Regiment von K--". I can't make out the name, and what I can make out, doesn't match any commander's name that I've found so far. I might just email "Feldwebel Krysztof" (Sergeant Chris), the poster, and see if we can communicate.

He has a lot of other galleries of SYW re-enactments posted there, too. I plan on browsing through them over the next week or so.

Prost!
Brad
 
I wondered about 'why do the Poles want an M36B1?" On looking at the photo again I realized that they didn't necessarily want the M36B1, they wanted a WW2 tank destroyer to commemorate the M10s or Achilles in the 1st Polish Armoured Division in Europe in WW2. An"Ah hah" moment.

Gary B
 
I like thumbing thru these albums of European reenactors. A few search words in various languages will get you in. Wikipedia has "Historical Reenactment" in number of languages.
 
Hallo! Our regiment is 40 IR or Fusillier-Regiment Alt-Kreytzen from Breslau/Wroclaw and then Schweidnitz/Swidnica. It was the only regiment in the prussian army that wear pink vests and trousers. We should have fusillier caps, not the hats, but we now wait for them. I hope we'll have them to the nearest batle in Landeshut/Kamienna Gora in the end of Juni.
The Gewehrmantel shown on the my segreants pics belongs to our friends from 4 IR von Kalnein from Potsdam.
 
Hello, I follow your regiment on the Picassa photo albums.

Scott
 
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