Ticonderoga: Order of Battle (2 Viewers)

[Fraxinus]

I have been asked to post the Order of Battle so people can see what figures can be used at Ticonderoga dioramas. From Osprey: Ticonderoga.

British: General James Abercromby
27th Foot - 650 all ranks
42nd Foot - 1,100 all ranks
44th Foot - 850 all ranks (unsure paints might be red, not the white linen as Monongahela).
46th Foot - 650 all ranks
55th Foot - 650 all ranks
60th Foot - 1st Battalion- 550 all ranks
60th Foot - 4th Battalion - 900 all ranks
80th Light Armed Foot - 350/450 all ranks
Royal Artillery - 125 all ranks with 44 pieces of ordnanace

Total British Regulars - 5,825 all ranks

Rogers Rangers - 300 plus 100 Stockbridge Indians
Ruggle Mass, 375 all ranks
Bagley's Mass, 450 all ranks
Preble's Mass, 525 all ranks
Williams Mass, 980 all ranks
Doty's Mass, 770 all ranks
Lyman Conn, 500 all ranks
Whiting Conn, 475 all ranks
Fitch Conn, 475 all ranks
Wooster Conn, 425 all ranks
Putman Conn Ranger, 75 all ranks
DeLancey New York Regiment, 4 battalions, 1,000-1,700 all ranks
Johnson New Jersey - 615-850 all ranks
Babcocks Rhode Island, 680 all ranks
Harts New Hampshire, 610 all ranks
Lovell New Hampshire Rangers, 90 all ranks
Corps of Armed Battoemen - 1,600 all ranks (the boat guys)
Mohawk - 400

Total American and Indians, 11,775

Total British Army= 17,600

French Army

General Montcalm

French Regular Regiments

La Reine, 345 all ranks
Bearn, 410 all ranks
Guyenne, 470 all ranks
La Sarre, 460 all ranks
Languedoc, 426 all ranks
Royal- Roussillion - 480 all ranks
Berry, 2nd Battalion 450 all ranks
Berry, 3rd Battallion, Grenadier Company 50 all ranks
Compagnies franches de la Marine, 150 all ranks
Canadian Militia - 250 - 500 all ranks
Indians = 15

Plus 400 all ranks from the 3rd Battalion Berry guarding Fort Carillon (French name for Fort Ticonderoga)
Plus 50-60 Canooniers-Bombardiers (French Artillerymen) in Fort Carillon

Total French Army: 4,200

 

[mikemiller1955]

Ken...thank you...that answers a lot of the questions I asked you...

I feel we should be speaking French...

almost 5 to 1 and the British lost...

 

[Obee]

I'm looking forward to the release of the new figures too. John indicated to me (email)that he will be passing on some good of them this week.

When that is issued I have permissionto show off my painting of one of the 42nd Foot Greandiers that was on show in Chicago last month. The resin figure has come 'down under for his 'lick of paint', but my painting style is different from John's but he a fine figure so you can see the finely detailed scuplting. Hopefully I can show you all next week?

John

 

[Combat]

Howe had a fellow named Moneypenny standing next to him at the time he was killed. That alone should ensure that John does "The Death of Howe".

 

[Fraxinus]

The Battle lasted for about 6 hours with various British units moving as to the point of their attack and position. For example, early in the Battle the 42nd was on the French left, but by end of the battle, the 42nd was on the French right.

Initially, the 42nd probably hit the Languedoc, La Sarre Regiments and volunteer Canadian companies trying to both break and go around the French left. Failed. The strongest assault by the 42nd was made around 5 PM against the La Reine, Bearn, and Guyenne Regiments on the French right. Pressure then shifted to the Center-Right. From Osprey: "The most intense assault by the 42nd Highlanders in the late afternoon was defended by the Royal-Roussillion" with the Berry also being attacked by 42nd.

A small group of Highlanders, about 20, forced their way over the French entrenchment against the Bearn. Most were quickly killed with 6 -7 captured.

My prediction is BEARN!!! BAH!!! Bearn Regimental Flag lacks the needed SNAZZY, no idea, now >>>>

These guys had a busy day.

 

[mikemiller1955]

I'm looking forward to the release of the new figures too. John indicated to me (email)that he will be passing on some good of them this week.

When that is issued I have permissionto show off my painting of one of the 42nd Foot Greandiers that was on show in Chicago last month. The resin figure has come 'down under for his 'lick of paint', but my painting style is different from John's but he a fine figure so you can see the finely detailed scuplting. Hopefully I can show you all next week?

John

I would love to see it painted John...

Howe had a fellow named Moneypenny standing next to at the time he was killed. That alone should ensure that John does "The Death of Howe".

yes...his great grand mother starred in the Bond series...

The Battle lasted for about 6 hours with various British units moving as to the point of their attack and position. For example, early in the Battle the 42nd was on the French left, but by end of the battle, the 42nd was on the French right.

Initially, the 42nd probably hit the Languedoc, La Sarre Regiments and volunteer Canadian companies trying to both break and go around the French left. Failed. The strongest assault by the 42nd was made around 5 PM against the La Reine, Bearn, Guyenne Regiments and Royal-Roussillion on the French right. Osprey "the most intense assault by the 42nd Highlanders in the late afternoon was defended by the Royal-Roussillion".

Okay Ken...you have permission to revise your pick...

1) Roussillion
2) Marines
3) de La Reine
4) de La Sarre

 

[Fraxinus]

My prediction for the opposing french regiment based on total speculation and no supporting evidence is: Regiment Bearn

http://www.militaryheritage.com/bearn.htm:

Uniform description is on the bottom of the page. Figure is a grenadier, but not in a bear-skin hat. There are snazzier possibilities where the cuffs and waistcoat are different colors, and somewhat snazzier flags and regimental names, but then I also predicted Grant's Defeat as the next release and voted for Willkie, so .......

 

[Fraxinus]

http://www.militaryheritage.com/bearn.htm

Try this for the link to the Bearn

 

[Combat]

I'm looking forward to getting some French flag bearers. There is a real flag disparity between the French and Brits so far. Hard to believe we only have one French flag and no French grenadiers.

 

[Obee]

I would love to see it painted John...

Well here he is, seeing that John's information on the new figures, Battle of Fort Carillon series ,was announced in the Treefrog Rivet thats come in last night.

This is my painting of the resin figures of the Black Watch Grenadier advancing.

Like him????

John

 

[Fraxinus]

Simply Superb!!! No way, I would try to tackle plaid even if I could paint!!! Now we just need to get Combat a figure painted as Royal Regiment!!

 

[marco55]

That is excellent.I think you could paint for Jenkins.Great Job.
Mark

 

[mikemiller1955]

Great work John...excellent paint job...

 

[old tank]

John...
Thankyou for showing your painted grenadier, you sure have
done a fabulous painting job on him. Cant wait to get my hands
on those fellas when they come out. Thanks again now we know
what to look for.

 

[Obee]

Thanks for all you kind comments about my painting of this new figure.

Good news is that my friend Jim, who brought them back from Chicago have given me another to paint. This time its a grenadier advancing with his musket pointing in front, holding it level.

I hope to get him painted this week for you all.

The first figure I showed was coded TIC - 10 underneath, the next one s TIC-11 if thats any use in a catalog.

By the way, both soldiers are fully equipped, both with weapons and thier 'personal euipment', hidden under the kilt

regards,

John

 

[nysoldiers]

Excellent work!
This will be a great series and your painting really whets my appetite........

 

[mikemiller1955]

Thanks for all you kind comments about my painting of this new figure.

Good news is that my friend Jim, who brought them back from Chicago have given me another to paint. This time its a grenadier advancing with his musket pointing in front, holding it level.

I hope to get him painted this week for you all.

The first figure I showed was coded TIC - 10 underneath, the next one s TIC-11 if thats any use in a catalog.

By the way, both soldiers are fully equipped, both with weapons and thier 'personal euipment', hidden under the kilt

regards,

John

Great work again John...very nice job on the painting...

 

[Obee]

OK guys, this is what you have been waiting for......

the other Black Watch grenadier, TIC-11 just finished this morning.

I've show him with his other mate, as they advance across a field of damaged timber. The other 4 figures now on the Treefrog site also show this type of base, so I'm sure looking forward to see some great dioramas when all of the troops are relaesed onto the battlefield.

John

 

[mikemiller1955]

John...those turned out really nice...you do great work...

 

[Fraxinus]

Awesome yet again!!!

I noticed how you added the red stripes to the grenadier kilt. Really nice touch. Some think that only the grenadier kilts had the red stripe included in the pattern. The regular 42nd as painted by JJD does not appear to the the red stripe in the kilts. Seems you both get an "A" from this rivet counter!!!