"We shall know how to fight them next time"............General Edward Braddock (1 Viewer)

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"We shall know how to fight them next time"............General Edward Braddock

On July 9th, 1755, General Edward Braddock, commander in chief of the British army, crossed the Monongahela River, about ten miles south of Fort Duquesne.

His objective was to capture the French Fort Duquesne.

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Re: "We shall know how to fight them next time"............General Edward Braddock

Chains of French controlled forts had sprouted up around the frontier, extending the lines of communication from New York to Fort William Henry, from Quebec to Fort Duquesne.

Each little garrison had become an isolated outpost, serving not only as frontier guardians, but as supply depots and campaign launching points.

The destruction of links in these communication lines would severely hamper, if not cripple the operations of the enemy.

So it was Major General Edward Braddock, then 60 years old, that led the expedition against the French strategic stronghold, Fort Duquesne.

Though well versed in military tactics, Braddock had never before led troops in battle.

Carrying huge siege cannon with him and a massive force of soldiers, this didn't figure to be much of a battle anyway.

Fort Duquense would fall.


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Re: "We shall know how to fight them next time"............General Edward Braddock

The Braddock Expedition,

also called Braddock's Campaign,

or more commonly, Braddock's Defeat,

was a major setback for the British in the early stages of the war with France and one of the most disastrous defeats for the British in the eighteenth century.

Some considered the Expeditionary Force could not have been more inappropriately selected.

It's commander, General Edward Braddock, who lacked military experience was considered by some as being intemperate, arrogant, lazy and obstinate.

Braddock was influenced by a cabal of young officers, headed by his aide de camp Captain Robert Orme.

Orme had served with Braddock in the Coldstream Guards, the regiment in which Braddock had spent most of his service.
The expedition was marked by administrative incompetence at every level.

Braddock compounded his problems by insulting and ignoring the advice of his senior officers.

Progress was painfully slow, as the army was required to cut a twelve foot wide road with bridges.

On the worst day in the early part of the March, it took 18 hours to cover 3 miles.

The expedition was plagued by the shortage of supplies and in time the troops were near to starvation, suffering from scurvy through living on salt beef provided by the Royal Navy.

There was no forage and the draught horses were dying in numbers.

Quantities of flour were damaged by heavy rain.

Water was a problem and the army suffered from endemic fevers.

Washington himself, was struck down with fever and left at Bear Camp, catching up later to the army in time for the battle.

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Re: "We shall know how to fight them next time"............General Edward Braddock

During the advance, small French and Indian war bands harried Braddock's men, but these were minor skirmishes.

The French commander, of Fort Duquense, after receiving reports from Indian scouting parties that the British were on their way to besiege the fort, realized that his fort could not withstand Braddock's cannon.
They had neither the manpower or supplies to survive an extended siege by the British firepower being lugged their way from Maryland's Fort Cumberland, over 100 miles of wilderness away.

Fort Duquesne would surely be only the first to fall and a domino effect would occur throughout the region in the other forts afterwards.

The other forts were smaller in size and garrison. It was simple.

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Re: "We shall know how to fight them next time"............General Edward Braddock

For the French, to maintain dominance in the area, to strengthen alliances with the native population, Duquesne could not be allowed to fall.

Manning the fort was a garrison of some 600 or more French & Canadians, with plenty of artillery in its massive bastions.

Yet, it was readily accepted that it could not stand against the columns of British now known to be creeping, ever so slowly, their way ... numbers that were falsely reported to be as high as 4,000 men.

So it was that a body of men comprised of:

36 officers, 72 Regulars, 146 Canadian militiamen, and 637 Indians, from the assorted allied tribes of Hurons, Potawotomis, Ottawas, Shawnees, Missisaugas, Iroquois, Delaware, and Mingos,

all under the command of Captain Daniel-Hyacinthe-Marie Lienard de Beaujeu, that were dispatched from Duquesne on the morning of July 9, 1755 rushing to intercept the approaching British.

Later it was estimated at no more than 300 enemy forces, by Colonel George Washington, who earned distinction at this battle for rallying a retreat and saving what was left of the decimated British forces.

Braddock's large forces, all in all, perhaps 1600 men were in the field, consisting of 2 Regiments of British regulars, the 44th, under the command of Colonel Sir Peter Halket, and the 48th, commanded by Colonel Thomas Dunbar.

Accompanying these regiments were 200 settlers, wagoneers, and other armed "hands," and a group of volunteers, 40-50 women, and a few Oneida Indian allies.

Around noon, on July 9th, 1975, the advance guard of 300 Grenadiers and Colonials, with two cannon under Lieutenant Colonel Thomas Gage, unexpectedly came upon the French and Indians, who were hurrying to the river, behind schedule and too late to set an ambush.

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Re: "We shall know how to fight them next time"............General Edward Braddock

The Indian allies were initially reluctant to attack such a large British force, but the French commander Liénard de Beaujeu, who dressed himself in full war regalia, complete with war paint, convinced them to follow his lead.

In the initial skirmish that followed between Gage's soldiers and Beaujeu, the French commander, was killed by the first volley of the Grenadiers' line.

Upon Beaujeu's death, Jean-Daniel Dumas assumed command of the French/Indian party.

After an exchange of fire, Gage's advance group fell back.

In the narrow confines of the road, they collided with the main body of Braddock's force, which had advanced rapidly when the shots were heard.

The entire column dissolved in disorder as the Canadian militiamen and Indians enveloped them and continued to snipe at the British flanks from the woods on the sides of the road.

At this time, the French regulars began advancing from the road and began to push the British back.

Four times, Braddock had his horse shot out from under him.

His officers bravely urged the men to stand.

Many officers were shot down by their own rebellious troops.

Instead, they huddled. They attempted to burrow to the center. It was slaughter for the British regulars.

At one point, 2 6-pounders, that had accompanied the vanguard, were turned against them upon capture by the French.

Many of the American militiamen reverted to forest warfare and attempted resistance.

Mistaken for Indians, some were killed by their own allies, the British regulars.

The British attempted to cut their way out of the trap. In vain, a meager attempt was made to seize the rise of ground. It failed.

Following Braddock's example, the officers kept trying to reform units into regular order within the confines of the road, mostly in vain and simply providing larger targets for their concealed enemy.

Cannon were used, but in such confines of the forest road, they were ineffective.

The Colonial militia, accompanying the British took cover and returned fire.

In this confusion, many of the militiamen, who were fighting from the woods cover, were mistaken for the enemy and fired upon by the British regulars.

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Re: "We shall know how to fight them next time"............General Edward Braddock

Finally, after between an hour to three hours of intense combat, Braddock was shot off his horse as effective resistance collapsed.

Braddock had been shot in the lung and helped from the field by Washington, Orme and other officers.

By sunset, the surviving British and American forces were fleeing back down the road they had built.

Braddock died of his wounds during the long retreat, on July 13, and is buried within the Fort Necessity parklands.

It has been claimed that the force did not begin the retreat for three to four hours. This seems unlikely.
The British soldiers carried 24 rounds into battle.

It seems likely that once these were expended the retreat began.

It is unlikely that there was sufficient organization for a resupply.

The body of men, those surviving, finally, after enduring 3 hours of hot lead, hideous screams, and death all around them, broke and fled through the opening to the rear not yet closed off by the French.

At the rear of the column the wagon drivers cut their teams free and fled.

Each company had two women permitted to march with it.

A number of women and children were killed and scalped.

Casualties were horrific.

Nearly all the officers and about two-thirds of the fighting men were dead or wounded. Of Braddock's staff, only Washington was alive and relatively well.

The rout was complete. Left in its wake, were artillery, guns, ammunition, wagons laden with supplies, horses, cattle, Braddock's papers & personal effects, a chest of gold, and dead men ... perhaps 500 of them.

Pursuers caught the stragglers, captured them, tortured them, killed them.

There was considerable carnage in the river crossing, but the Indians did not continue the pursuit beyond the river.

There, it was abandoned.

Pillaging the dead and wounded became the order of the day.

Colonel Dunbar, with the reserves and rear supply units, took command when the survivors reached his position.

He ordered the destruction of supplies and cannon before withdrawing, burning about 150 wagons on the spot.

Ironically, at this point the defeated, demoralized and disorganized British forces still outnumbered their opponents.

The French and Indians did not pursue and were engaged with looting and scalping.

Dumas realized the British were utterly defeated and felt he didn't have enough of a force to continue organized pursuit.
The remnants of Braddock’s force now commanded by the dispirited and unenthusiastic Colonel Dunbar withdrew to Philadelphia and were later transferred to the North.



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Re: "We shall know how to fight them next time"............General Edward Braddock

The defeat unleashed a wave of Indian attacks on Virginia, Maryland and Pennsylvania, many settlers being killed or abducted.

Indian raids reached almost to Philadelphia. Defense of the three colonies was left to the local administration.

The Royal Government had failed in its most important function, protection of its citizens, and would never have the same standing.

A number of the participants in Braddock’s expedition to Fort Duquesne went on to achieve fame or notoriety, among them:

George Washington.
Lt Colonel Gage became British Commander in Chief in America on the outbreak of the American Revolutionary War.
Captain Horatio Gates became a major general in the American Continental Army and was in command at Saratoga.
Captain Charles Lee of Halkett’s 44th became a major general in the Continental Army.
James Craik became Washington’s surgeon.
Captain William Mercer became a major general in the Continental Army.
Lieutenant Hotham of Dunbar’s 48th commanded at Detroit in Pontiac’s war.

Beaujeu who led the attack and was shot dead in the opening moments

Daniel Boone

Daniel Morgan

Captain Robert Orme had made himself so unpopular that the opportunity was seized to blame him for the disaster.

He was compelled to leave the army within a year.

The debate on how Braddock, with professional soldiers, superior numbers, and artillery, could fail so miserably began soon after the battle and continues to this day.

Some blamed Braddock, some blamed his officers, some blamed the British regulars or the colonial militia. George Washington, for his part, supported Braddock and found fault with the British regulars.

Colonel Washington, who was a major factor in disengaging and saving the remaining British forces, later said,

"We marched to that place, without any considerable loss, having only now and then a straggler picked up by the French and scouting Indians. When we came there, we were attacked by a party of French and Indians, whose number, I am persuaded, did not exceed three hundred men, while ours consisted of about one thousand three hundred well-armed troops, chiefly regular soldiers, who were struck with such a panic that they behaved with more cowardice than it is possible to conceive. The officers behaved gallantly, in order to encourage their men, for which they suffered greatly, there being near sixty killed and wounded, a large proportion of the number we had."

Braddock's tactics are still debated.
One school of thought, holds that Braddock's reliance on time-honored European methods, where men stand shoulder-to-shoulder in the open and fire mass volleys in unison, was not appropriate for frontier fighting and cost Braddock the battle.

Skirmish tactics that American colonials had learned from frontier fighting, where men take cover and fire individually, "Indian style", was considered the superior method in the American environment.

However, in some studies, the interpretation of "Indian style" superiority has been argued to be a myth by several military historians.

European regular armies already employed irregular forces of their own and had extensive theories of how to use and counter guerilla warfare.

The war in the forests of America was a very different business from war in Europe.

Braddock's failure, to rely on the time-honored European methods, may have cost him the battle.







General Braddock’s last words are reported to have been: “We shall know how to fight them next time.”







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Re: "We shall know how to fight them next time"............General Edward Braddock

OMG Mike! Awesome! I love it! :eek:
 
Re: "We shall know how to fight them next time"............General Edward Braddock

This is all John Jenkin's Design on this table.

It's on a 4x5 foot table, with just under 200 figures and 150 trees.

It is a depiction of the Battle of Monongahela, 1755.

The story of the battle was taken from internet sources.

There were a lot of discrepancies in the various sources, I chose to print the versions that were most consistent and that most appealed to me

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Re: "We shall know how to fight them next time"............General Edward Braddock

Mike

Awesome is an understatement. This has to be one of the largest JJ displays ever created and will certainly spark interest in all fans of JJ and the FIW. I hope you at least take a day of rest after all this hard work. Will you get a plexiglass top made to cover the table?

Randy
 
Re: "We shall know how to fight them next time"............General Edward Braddock

OK, this dio beats them all. This is, without doubt, the best dio I have seen posted on this forum. It is very period evocative and exactly what I have in my minds eye for the actual action. The amount of work involved is most impressive and the care taken with the landscape allows the figures to shine in their true venue. This is an outstanding labor of love and I congratulate you on the finished product. I am more than a little envious of your talent, space, and funds.:D Thank you. -- Al
 
Re: "We shall know how to fight them next time"............General Edward Braddock

:eek::eek::eek::eek: Michael, thats a very very very awesome JJ Dio. You should put some glass around that table. I wish I had that many JJ multiples, again Michael you are really talented.

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Re: "We shall know how to fight them next time"............General Edward Braddock

Mike you out did yourself! Great.....stupendous.........fantastic.........

unbelievable.................awesome......

When I finished seeing this display, I couldn't help but recall Jack Buck's famous call of the Kirk Gibson HR in the 1988 World Series: "I can't believe what I just saw..."!

Mark
 
Re: "We shall know how to fight them next time"............General Edward Braddock

Mike, what everyone else has said plus - just how long did this take to set up and photograph? :eek:

Jeff
 
Re: "We shall know how to fight them next time"............General Edward Braddock

Thank you Darrell, Randy, Al, Titus , Mark and Jeff.

I'm flattered that you liked it.

Randy and Titus........it was never intended to be permanent, it's being dismanteld as I take this break.

Jeff.......the photos were easy.......I did not even edit a single one,

the set up......well, that's a different story.
 
Re: "We shall know how to fight them next time"............General Edward Braddock

That's totally awesome Mike.You should be very proud of your collection.One thing though,it's 1755 not 1975 but I trade the dates for such an awesome dio anytime. ;););)
 
Re: "We shall know how to fight them next time"............General Edward Braddock

That's totally awesome Mike.You should be very proud of your collection.One thing though,it's 1755 not 1975 but I trade the dates for such an awesome dio anytime. ;););)

Did I write 1975 somewhere in there...........Jesus Christ!!!!

Did I really, lol................well, I said it was my version, lol.

That's funny, I was stressing trying to upload 60 pictures with no duplicates.

It's usually Tim (Fishhead) that corrects my work, however, he is polite about it, like you were..........thanks Mark.
 
Re: "We shall know how to fight them next time"............General Edward Braddock

Mark...........


Wow, :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:,

You're right.........the very first sentence is a screw up..........lol, sorry, thanks.
 
Re: "We shall know how to fight them next time"............General Edward Braddock

Mike,
You were probably pretty tired after all that set up.
Mark
 

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