Westerns/War films you'd like remade (1 Viewer)

[Rob]

Ok I'll start with one I saw the other day. ' The Horse Soldiers' with John Wayne. Now the Duke was brilliant at playing the Duke, no one can say he wasn't, but if they remade this with one or two scenes cut (like the frankly weird spanking scene{eek3}) and threw in some renewed action scenes this could be good. Suggestions for the Dukes role welcome.

Anyone heard of a release date for 'The Dambusters' ?

Excellent BBC4 docu on Brit War films of the fifties over Christmas, Dam Busters, Cruel Sea, Carve Her Name With Pride, Colditz story, Dunkirk , Ice Cold In Alex, Angels One Five all featured to show what a superb decade it was for Brit War films. It looked at the way the films of that era helped keep the British morale up during years of post war austerity by taking them back to a time they could be proud of with the films depicting bravery, fair play, courage and stiff upper lip-ness as depicted in 'Angels One five'. However 'Dunkirk ' broke this mold by showing Tommies who'd had enough of fighting and people at home making money off the backs of soldiers whilst not joining up themselves. It also showed the stark realism of death in War in scenes such as the Stuka attack on the artillery position, scenes many War films avoided in those days. Altogether a more gritty , harsh film which was also brilliant.

So guys, any classics you'd like remade?

Rob

 

[TomB]

Ok I'll start with one I saw the other day. ' The Horse Soldiers' with John Wayne. Now the Duke was brilliant at playing the Duke, no one can say he wasn't, but if they remade this with one or two scenes cut (like the frankly weird spanking scene{eek3}) and threw in some renewed action scenes this could be good. Suggestions for the Dukes role welcome.

Anyone heard of a release date for 'The Dambusters' ?

Excellent BBC4 docu on Brit War films of the fifties over Christmas, Dam Busters, Cruel Sea, Carve Her Name With Pride, Colditz story, Dunkirk , Ice Cold In Alex, Angels One Five all featured to show what a superb decade it was for Brit War films. It looked at the way the films of that era helped keep the British morale up during years of post war austerity by taking them back to a time they could be proud of with the films depicting bravery, fair play, courage and stiff upper lip-ness as depicted in 'Angels One five'. However 'Dunkirk ' broke this mold by showing Tommies who'd had enough of fighting and people at home making money off the backs of soldiers whilst not joining up themselves. It also showed the stark realism of death in War in scenes such as the Stuka attack on the artillery position, scenes many War films avoided in those days. Altogether a more gritty , harsh film which was also brilliant.

So guys, any classics you'd like remade?

Rob

I would like to see a remake of Gunga Din......but where are you going to get the actors with the Charisma of... Gary Grant...Victor McLaglin... Douglas Fairbanks Jr and Sam Jaffo these days ?...TomB

 

[TomNT]

Battle of the Bulge (1965) for me Rob but this time with CGI King Tigers, a real King Tiger and some mock up King Tigers for close up shots (replicas that don't move but look realistic close up), a few Hanomag Half Tracks (the rest CGI), some Shermans (the rest CGI), M3 Halftracks, a Stug or Marder ect as well as WW2 U.S. Trucks, Jeeps and Jerry Kubels and Trucks. Also keeping the action in the Ardennes or some place that has snow and fir trees rather than shooting the movie in Spain!

Tom

 

[Rob]

I would like to see a remake of Gunga Din......but where are you going to get the actors with the Charisma of... Gary Grant...Victor McLaglin... Douglas Fairbanks Jr and Sam Jaffo these days ?...TomB

Good point!

Battle of the Bulge (1965) for me Rob but this time with CGI King Tigers, a real King Tiger and some mock up King Tigers for close up shots (replicas that don't move but look realistic close up), a few Hanomag Half Tracks (the rest CGI), some Shermans (the rest CGI), M3 Halftracks, a Stug or Marder ect as well as WW2 U.S. Trucks, Jeeps and Jerry Kubels and Trucks. Also keeping the action in the Ardennes or some place that has snow and fir trees rather than shooting the movie in Spain!

Tom

^&grin

Yes that is ripe for a remake isn't it. The desert Battle scene is a real chuckle isn't it...its like filming Zulu in Iceland!

Rob

 

[lancer]

I would like to see a remake of Gunga Din......but where are you going to get the actors with the Charisma of... Gary Grant...Victor McLaglin... Douglas Fairbanks Jr and Sam Jaffo these days ?...TomB

I've got the answer to this one: Russell Crowe in the Victor McLaglen role (MacChesney); Guy Pierce in the Doug Fairbanks, Jr. role (Ballantine); and Mel Gibson in the Gary Grant role (Cutter). An all Australian remake. It's perfect. Crowe is gruff and authorative. Pierce can do the elegance and Gibson has the cheek for the Cutter role.^&grin -- Al

 

[Rob]

I've got the answer to this one: Russell Crowe in the Victor McLaglen role (MacChesney); Guy Pierce in the Doug Fairbanks, Jr. role (Ballantine); and Mel Gibson in the Gary Grant role (Cutter). An all Australian remake. It's perfect. Crowe is gruff and authorative. Pierce can do the elegance and Gibson has the cheek for the Cutter role.^&grin -- Al

DO YOU WANNA SEE ME CRY AL!!!!^&grin

 

[TomB]

I've got the answer to this one: Russell Crowe in the Victor McLaglen role (MacChesney); Guy Pierce in the Doug Fairbanks, Jr. role (Ballantine); and Mel Gibson in the Gary Grant role (Cutter). An all Australian remake. It's perfect. Crowe is gruff and authorative. Pierce can do the elegance and Gibson has the cheek for the Cutter role.^&grin -- Al

And a Kangaroo can play Gunga Din....Perfect....hat off to you MR PRODUCER...cheers TomB

 

[lancer]

DO YOU WANNA SEE ME CRY AL!!!!^&grin

Rob, before you start crying, I forgot to say that Peter Jackson should direct with Andy Serkis being CGIed as Gunga Din himself. I repeat, it's perfect! ^&grin -- Al

 

[theBaron]

"Midway". That movie was abysmal, especially when compared to "Tora! Tora! Tora!", which preceded it by only a couple of years. The added fictional backstory about the ensign and his Nisei girlfriend was stupid, and the stock footage errors in the film are well known and many.

Prost!
Brad

 

[lancer]

And a Kangaroo can play Gunga Din....Perfect....hat off to you MR PRODUCER...cheers TomB

I think said kangaroo would be better cast in the role of Annie the elephant. Just a thought.^&grin -- Al

 

[lancer]

I think the 2 suggestions to remake The Battle of the Bulge and Midway are spot-on. Both are certainly worthy of good movies instead of the original clunkers. -- Al

 

[theBaron]

Rob, before you start crying, I forgot to say that Peter Jackson should direct with Andy Serkis being CGIed as Gunga Din himself. I repeat, it's perfect! ^&grin -- Al

Jackson would turn it into a trilogy lasting 12 hours, with backstory going back to the Moghul conquests.

Prost!
Brad

 

[Rob]

Rob, before you start crying, I forgot to say that Peter Jackson should direct with Andy Serkis being CGIed as Gunga Din himself. I repeat, it's perfect! ^&grin -- Al

^&grin

Look, just drop Gibson and I'll give the movie the ok!:wink2:

Rob

 

[theBaron]

Yeah, "Battle of the Bulge" is the other one I think of immediately. Though I'd keep the scene in which the Panzer crews sing the Panzerlied, just that they'd sing more verses, instead of repeating the same one over and over, like Rod Stewart covering a Southside Johnny tune.

What gets me is that the real events are dramatic enough, that they don't need embellishment.

Prost!
Brad

 

[lancer]

^&grin

Look, just drop Gibson and I'll give the movie the ok!:wink2:

Rob

Ok, Rob. But Mel's not going to be happy. He was counting on this to be his big comeback vehicle. So who do we cast as Cutter? --Al

 

[lancer]

Jackson would turn it into a trilogy lasting 12 hours, with backstory going back to the Moghul conquests.

Prost!
Brad

True. ^&grin -- Al

 

[TomB]

"Midway". That movie was abysmal, especially when compared to "Tora! Tora! Tora!", which preceded it by only a couple of years. The added fictional backstory about the ensign and his Nisei girlfriend was stupid, and the stock footage errors in the film are well known and many.

Prost!
Brad

The only decent thing about "Midway" was the Dauntless news reel shots,,,I have a large scale Dauntless model and various carrier op photos of it.....have not seen any around for years...not even the 1/72 model......TomB

 

[Fraxinus]

Instead of a remake, I would like to see the Battle of Samar, Leyete Gulf (October, 1944) - the US Navy's finest hour, bar none. Tiny, vastly outnumbered, US destroyers and destroyer escorts slugging it out with four Japanese battleships, including the Yamato (largest battleship ever), and 6-8 heavy cruisers. The heroism and sacrifice exhibited that day are nearly beyond belief. Cry and be proud.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_off_Samar

 

[lancer]

Instead of a remake, I would like to see the Battle of Samar, Leyete Gulf (October, 1944) - the US Navy's finest hour, bar none. Tiny, vastly outnumbered, US destroyers and destroyer escorts slugging it out with four Japanese battleships, including the Yamato (largest battleship ever), and 6-8 heavy cruisers. The heroism and sacrifice exhibited that day are nearly beyond belief. Cry and be proud.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_off_Samar

That would make a tremendous movie. Maybe someone can adapt "The Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors", an outstanding book on the action, written by James Hornfischer. If any of you out there are WW2 US Navy fans, you need to read this book. -- Al

 

[Fraxinus]

Medal of Honor Citation, Captain Ernst E Evans, USS Johnston

For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty as commanding officer of the U.S.S. Johnston in action against major units of the enemy Japanese fleet during the battle off Samar on 25 October 1944. The first to lay a smokescreen and to open fire as an enemy task force, vastly superior in number, firepower and armor, rapidly approached. Comdr. Evans gallantly diverted the powerful blasts of hostile guns from the lightly armed and armored carriers under his protection, launching the first torpedo attack when the Johnston came under straddling Japanese shellfire. Undaunted by damage sustained under the terrific volume of fire, he unhesitatingly joined others of his group to provide fire support during subsequent torpedo attacks against the Japanese and, outshooting and outmaneuvering the enemy as he consistently interposed his vessel between the hostile fleet units and our carriers despite the crippling loss of engine power and communications with steering aft, shifted command to the fantail, shouted steering orders through an open hatch to men turning the rudder by hand and battled furiously until the Johnston, burning and shuddering from a mortal blow, lay dead in the water after 3 hours of fierce combat. Seriously wounded early in the engagement, Comdr. Evans, by his indomitable courage and brilliant professional skill, aided materially in turning back the enemy during a critical phase of the action. His valiant fighting spirit throughout this historic battle will venture as an inspiration to all who served with him.

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In no engagement of its entire history has the United States Navy shown more gallantry, guts and gumption than in those two morning hours between 0730 and 0930 off Samar ”
— Admiral Samuel Eliot Morison, History of United States Naval Operations in World War II, Volume XII, Leyte