What to do with those British Highlanders from Ticonderoga! (1 Viewer)

Fraxinus

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As display shelf space is very tight, I placed the recent Ticonderoga Highlanders on my Culloden shelf. I placed them on side with the Scot rebels. I was happy and the shelf looked good. I figured none of the neighbors would spot the historical inacurracy and outright fabrication.

Then reading up on the Black Watch:

"When the 1745 Jacobite Rising broke out, the regiment returned to the south of Britain in anticipation of a possible French invasion. However one company of the regiment fought at the Battle of Culloden for the Hanoverians under Dugald Campbell of Auchrossan, where they suffered no casualties.[3] From 1747 to 1756 they were stationed in Ireland and then were sent to New York."

I briefly took a few minutes on the internet and found 1 drawing of an early Black Watch Uniforms, supposedly 1739, they had buff cuffs and facings, so the uniforms should be a reasonable match.

http://www.blackwatch.50megs.com/uniform.html

So, I think you can add those Ticonderoga Highlanders to your Culloden shelf, but on the British Side and be historically correct.

Unfortunately, this tidbit of information now totally screws up my shelf in a way that does not rest with my sense of order and correctness !!! I placed the Ticonderoga figures on the wrong side of the Battle, where they fitted in so very nicely with the other charging Scots, and now I have this motivation to move them onto the British side of the line, where they do not fit in with my British line set to receive a charge.

Oh what a tangled web we weave,
When first we practice to deceive!
Sir Walter Scott

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/42nd_Regiment_of_Foot:
 
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I know the feeling - historical accuracy is sometimes a tough and demanding master ;-)

Niels
 
Ken...I give you carte blanche to mix and match any and all your sets...they can be whatever you want them to be...my favorite salt and pepper shaker don't match...and my food still tastes good...
 
The marching Highlander Grenadiers are a real head scratcher to display. They seem out of place with the fighting figures. As an aside, I had the Glengarry club figure displayed with the 1812 Americans for the longest time before I figured out he belonged with the Brits.
 
The marching Highlander Grenadiers are a real head scratcher to display. They seem out of place with the fighting figures. As an aside, I had the Glengarry club figure displayed with the 1812 Americans for the longest time before I figured out he belonged with the Brits.

Hehehe...you're not the first to do that with Capt. Jenkins...I have seen him in shelf dioramas pictures on the forum on the wrong side...the really unusual part is that there was a Capt. Jenkins with the Glengarry that was the Hero of Ogdensburg...I believe he lost an arm in that battle that was well before Chippawa...probably wouldn't have made the greatest figure with one arm...:rolleyes2:...the Glengarry Lights were actually not involved in the Battle of Chippawa...so to speak...at best...they covered the flank of the British retreat to Lundy's Lane from Chippawa and guarded their approach prior to battle...I was hoping John might make a couple of sets of the rifle brigade to go with that Club figure...as he does seem kind of lost by himself...especially with that pose (charging)...if John would make just a small rifle crew to go with him...I would like that...

the marching Grenadiers stumped me too...I'm not sure how to work them in with the 42nd Foot attacking...perhaps future sets will give me some guidance...
 
the really unusual part is that there was a Capt. Jenkins with the Glengarry that was the Hero of Ogdensburg...I believe he lost an arm in that battle that was well before Chippawa...probably wouldn't have made the greatest figure with one arm...:

Actually Mike I think he would make a good figure.They were many officers during those times staying in the army after losing a limb.
Mark
 
Seems my problem was solved by 2 fingers of a single malt scotch ----- leaving the Scots with the Scots --- the neighbors will never know the difference.

As it regards the marching Highlanders, maybe the Raid on Saint Francis would be a better display fit?
 
MIKE.......
The French had cut 3 narrow roads through the Forest leading to the Abattis. What
I would like to do my table is 3'x5' is have 18''of forest and 2 roads leading in to the
Abattis and 2' of open ground leading to Abbattis. This way you can put your marching highlanders on the roads marching in and in front of them put your highlanders marching on the double in front of them coming out in the open and
just go from there. There will be new highlanders in march. If you dont have
enought room for 2 roads just use 1 so you can use marching highlanders. I think
it will really make display look good with them coming out of woods.
Just my thoughs, hope it helps somebody.
 
Aurele...

mine was too small...I added a foot on each end...I want a little tree forest on both ends and one side...lots of debris like Carlo's...I think the roads are a smart addition...Montcalm really did cut some roads to lure the Brits in...he was sooooooo clever...can you show some pics...



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MIKE.......
I have been reading up on this for this for 6 wks. and on computer for info.
All I have is drawings of of what I will be doing.I will be doing my table like
yours thin plywood in bottom and 1''foam glued on top to get ditch in front
of Abattis. and side pieces so ground work does not fall off. Waiting for
weather to warm up a little to go and pick up some branches for abattis I
have a few different versions how to build abattis, I may go like Fraximus maps
show not straight line but in and out version with openings in front wall. Mike
you know when retired to much time on your hands, take to many breaks coffee
and cigs. As soon as I have it started I will send you pictures if you want to
post them, I still have not learned how to post yet. BE GOOD.....
 

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