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Krieglok

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I have a WW1 US Cavalry soldier and horse. They are two separate pieces. I cannot make out the name, but they appear to be made in England. Any information would be appreciated!

Tom






 
I am not familiar with them, but looks like it says Plantagenet to me
 
I came up with the same name, "Plantagenet". I tried searching on the net and only came up with references to knights from the various wars of the Middle Ages.

"Made in England" didn't help either.

Thanks for the response.

Tom
 
Yeah, the base is definitely inscribed with "Plantagenet." It sounds vaguely familiar as a figure maker, but I can check my references when I get home tonight.

Prost!
Brad
 
I guess I was looking for the history of the maker. The figures you linked certainly have the same style of sculpting and paint.

I dont know which would be the correct correct spelling of the maker's name, "Plantagent" or "Platangenet".

I would appreciate any info you may dig up on them. Thanks!

Tom
 
Krieglok said:
I guess I was looking for the history of the maker. The figures you linked certainly have the same style of sculpting and paint.

I dont know which would be the correct correct spelling of the maker's name, "Plantagent" or "Platangenet".

I would appreciate any info you may dig up on them. Thanks!

Tom
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It's definitely "Plantagenet", as in the royal house.

I'm looking through back issues of "Toy Soldier & Model Figure" and other magazines for any references. I'm fairly certain that they were in business at some time in from the mid-90s to the late Aughts, as they say.

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Brad
 
Does this passage fit the puzzle?


"made in the 1970's by John Briethwright (spelling), he made knights, WWI figures, plus 25mm wargaming figures"

Tom
 
Yeah, I saw the reference to John Braithwaite, but the context suggests more that he made figures of Plantagenet knights, that is, knights serving the Plantagenets, rather than that he produced figures under the trademark, "Plantagenet." I think Braithwaite actually produced his knights under his own name.

I'm still going through my back issues of "Toy Soldier & Model Figure" and "Toy Soldier Collector", because I'm certain I have seen Plantagenet mentioned in an article. To give you an idea of the extent of the task, TS&MF is up to issue 222, I think it is. It was a monthly publication until last year, when it went to bi-monthly, and I have every issue, except maybe Issue 2. TSC is quarterly, and it's up to issue 72, though I let my subscription lapse last year, after issue 67 (I forgot about renewing). And this is all hard copy, so, it takes a while to get through it.

But in the meantime, you might want to email Carl Hoegermeyer, whose site Quartermaster Collectibles is, and ask if he knows more about Plantagenet. Carl's a member here, too, but I don't know how often he's online and in the forum. Another contact would be the author of the book on Braithwaite's knights, Philip J. Bennett, through his website, Lord Tankerville's Knights. I expect he'd be able to tell us whether Braithwaite also made figures of other periods than the medieval period.

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Brad
 
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I've emailed Mr. Bennett myself, in the meantime, to ask him if he can clear up the question.

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Brad
 
Mr. Bennett replied and confirmed that John Braithwaite did make other subjects than knights, under the Plantagenet name. They include British Indian Army and Roman gladiators. He wasn't aware of any US cavalry, but I think we're pretty close to confirming the maker on Tom's original figure. I sent him the photos you've all uploaded, in the meantime, and invited him to have a look here at our thread. He suggested that the best way to identify John's work is through his sculpting and painting. That, coupled with the marked base, confirms in my mind that this cavalryman is his, too.

He also noted that while the knights were marketed primarily to US customers, the other figures were primarily for the British market.

Mr. Bennett also noted that John was a wargamer, and that he produced 25mm figures for periods from Ancients through the US Civil War.

We've got some great info here! I'll add more, as I get more.

Prost!
Brad

PS--I'm still going through my magazines, too :D It makes me realize how many I have accumulated, and how used I have gotten to using digital media for things like this.
 
Hi Brad.

Thanks for all the interesting information. I was given similar info by George Guerriero from Minute Man Toy Soldiers. He mentioned Mr. Briaithwaite and mentioned the 25mm line he produced. I appreciate the confirmation and additional input.

I will post some more pictures of the various figures so we can see the sculpture techniques. They are all marked with "Planetagnet" mark on the bottom, but most are hardly visible. The "Made in England" stamping is fairly strong on all of the bases, suggesting a seperate stamp/application.

I really appreciate your research on this topic. Keep up the great work!

Tom
 
You're very welcome! If you have several of these, I'd enjoy seeing pictures of them. We could even start a dedicated thread for Plantagenet, too, here in the Glossy Figures forum. I don't think there is one.

Prost!
Brad
 
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