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Does anyone know for sure the number on Wittmans tank at Villers Bocage

I am getting conflicting info researching this topic

Numbers

205
212
222

 

[lenswerks]

Wittmann's tank 205 had broken down on the road before the action. When they arrived outside Viller-Bocage Michael took command of 222 which was Kurt Sowa's.

231 belonged to Belbe and towed after the fight which is often mistaken for 222 in photos.

So as I understand it 222 is the answer.

ps Some may not agree.

 

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Wittmann's tank 205 had broken down on the road before the action. When they arrived outside Viller-Bocage Michael took command of 222 which was Kurt Sowa's.

231 belonged to Belbe and towed after the fight which is often mistaken for 222 in photos.

So as I understand it 222 is the answer.

ps Some may not agree.

Thank you...WIth your help and further research I am going with 222. Alex

 

[DMNamiot]

Hi Guys,

The site Achtung Panzer has a different version. They say he was killed while in Command of Tiger 007. "Michael Wittmann and his crew was killed in action on August 8th of 1944, at Gaumesnil near Cintheaux and were buried in an unmarked grave. In March of 1983, the unmarked field grave of Tiger #007's crew was discovered during the construction of the road and was excavated. It was possible to identify the remains by Wittmann's dental records and Heinrich Reimers's (driver) identification tag. Wittmann and his crew was then officially buried in the German Military Cemetery of "De La Cambe" in Normandy, France. The cemetery is located on the National Road 13 (RN 13) between Isigny-sur-Mer and Bayeux. Michael Wittmann is buried in square 47, row 3, grave 120 of "De La Cambe". On August 8th of 1944, crew of Tiger #007 from 2nd Kompanie of schwere SS-Panzer Abteilungen 101 of LSSAH was as follows:

SS-Sturmmann Rudolf "Rudi" Hirschel (radioman) 24/1/3 - 44/8/8 (20 years old),
SS-Unterscharführer Henrich Reimers (driver) 24/5/11 - 44/8/8 (20 years old),
SS-Unterscharführer Karl Wagner (observer) 20/5/31 - 44/8/8 (24 years old),
SS-Sturmmann Günther Weber (loader) 24/12/21 - 44/8/8 (20 years old),
SS-Haupsturmfuhrer Michael Wittmann (commander) 14/4/22 - 44/8/8 (30 years old)."

So I guess I will have to go to my books on this one also. I will take a look at the Tanks Aces Books I have and let you know if I find anything different.

Dave

 

[lancer]

Hi Guys,

The site Achtung Panzer has a different version. They say he was killed while in Command of Tiger 007. "Michael Wittmann and his crew was killed in action on August 8th of 1944, at Gaumesnil near Cintheaux and were buried in an unmarked grave. In March of 1983, the unmarked field grave of Tiger #007's crew was discovered during the construction of the road and was excavated. It was possible to identify the remains by Wittmann's dental records and Heinrich Reimers's (driver) identification tag. Wittmann and his crew was then officially buried in the German Military Cemetery of "De La Cambe" in Normandy, France. The cemetery is located on the National Road 13 (RN 13) between Isigny-sur-Mer and Bayeux. Michael Wittmann is buried in square 47, row 3, grave 120 of "De La Cambe". On August 8th of 1944, crew of Tiger #007 from 2nd Kompanie of schwere SS-Panzer Abteilungen 101 of LSSAH was as follows:

SS-Sturmmann Rudolf "Rudi" Hirschel (radioman) 24/1/3 - 44/8/8 (20 years old),
SS-Unterscharführer Henrich Reimers (driver) 24/5/11 - 44/8/8 (20 years old),
SS-Unterscharführer Karl Wagner (observer) 20/5/31 - 44/8/8 (24 years old),
SS-Sturmmann Günther Weber (loader) 24/12/21 - 44/8/8 (20 years old),
SS-Haupsturmfuhrer Michael Wittmann (commander) 14/4/22 - 44/8/8 (30 years old)."

So I guess I will have to go to my books on this one also. I will take a look at the Tanks Aces Books I have and let you know if I find anything different.

Dave

Hi Dave. The question was about the tank number of Wittmann's at the Villers Bocage action. This is not the action where he was killed. His tank number when he was killed was 007 but his tank number at the bocage action was 222. The Bocage action and the action where Wittmann was killed are two entirely different actions and days. -- Al

 

[DMNamiot]

Hi Al,

Reread the question and yes the answer I put in was a waste of digets. The likely vehicle was probably the one already mentioned for the action in question.

Dave

 

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I got it.....and thanks again. I was really onto the 007, but his death was a more obscure incident than Villers Bocage, So I am changing my TCS 007 to 222 and my Figarti 131 Normandy Tiger to 222 to complete scenes in 1/30th and 1/32 scale for The Great Crusade. Thank you men.