I did get them at a show a few weeks ago. If they had not been discounted I would not have bought them. Price creep for FOV is becoming an issue with me. To add to this, as has been mentioned, the asessories have been totally deleted. If you have not checked the prices for FOV recently you will be surprised. On top of this, one of the dealers who I respect said to look for other huge price increases in the future. So if you can lock in one of their products you currently want at a discount from the current price I recommend to buy it know. Larry.