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jazzeum said:
Technically, smooth jazz is different. Think Kenny G or Bob James.

Art Blakey and the JMs are hard bop. Moanin, written by Bobby Timmons, is one of the great jazz songs, the title track to Art’s 1959 album.

This is the album version.

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No argument from me Brad, but a wide label like 'smooth jazz' may attract more interest than 'this is hard bop'. I tend to think of most small groups like this. I don't really label it other than good/not so good. Just a thought.

My favourite jazz format is big band, but from a wide spectrum of bands and tunes ... preferably it swings .....

e.g. this does!


- in the late 60's this was fairly progressive jazz - but it still really swings ...


progressive in the 70's ...


These are from three of my favourite jazz albums.
 
panda1gen said:
No argument from me Brad, but a wide label like 'smooth jazz' may attract more interest than 'this is hard bop'. I tend to think of most small groups like this. I don't really label it other than good/not so good. Just a thought.

My favourite jazz format is big band, but from a wide spectrum of bands and tunes ... preferably it swings .....

e.g. this does!


- in the late 60's this was fairly progressive jazz - but it still really swings ...


progressive in the 70's ...


These are from three of my favourite jazz albums.
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Sorry Kevin but as a fan of 25 years plus jazz records are broken down into certain categories, if you will: swing, bop, hard bop, post bop, soul jazz, avant garde and free jazz. That’s the way we view things. Calling it smooth jazz is simply incorrect because smooth jazz is its own classification exemplified by people like Bob James, Earl Klugh and George Benson.

I love Count Basie. Was just listening to his V Disc recordings yesterday. Woody had a bop oriented band in the 50s with the Four Brothers but I’m not a fan of his singing. The Thad Mel band was a very popular one.

Swinging is the key to every jazz tune: does it swing?
 
jazzeum said:
Sorry Kevin but as a fan of 25 years plus jazz records are broken down into certain categories, if you will: swing, bop, hard bop, post bop, soul jazz, avant garde and free jazz. That’s the way we view things. Calling it smooth jazz is simply incorrect because smooth jazz is its own classification exemplified by people like Bob James, Earl Klugh and George Benson.

I love Count Basie. Was just listening to his V Disc recordings yesterday. Woody had a bop oriented band in the 50s with the Four Brothers but I’m not a fan of his singing. The Thad Mel band was a very popular one.

Swinging is the key to every jazz tune: does it swing?
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Again, no argument from me Brad, if that is how you and others classify it that is fine.

I don't - I could not particularly tell you if a particular tune is in which category, I don't mentally label them. I had not even heard the term 'hard bop' re Moanin'. I just ask myself if I like it or not.

I first time I saw Buddy Rich was at age 12 .....


I also saw Stan Kenton and Woody Herman several times.



I saw Duke Ellington's amazing band, but only after the great man had passed.

At the same time I was into Pink Floyd, Led Zep, Quo and other 'rock icons'. Maybe I don't fit any particular category of listener, but I respect your view if it suits.
 
A friend of mine took me to Rockefellers in Houston, Texas (a small venue) for my birthday years ago...she knew I liked Ramsey Lewis and somehow got us a table right by the stage...I was so close to Ramsey Lewis...if I stretched out I could of tapped his foot...he invited us back stage and of course we accepted...my friend was Asian and not to sound racist...but I think he had a bad case of "Yellow Fever"...nothing happened...he was a perfect gentleman...but it was a great b'day present...

 
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