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I thought all the jobs went to China so things could be cheaper. Now we are told that since everything is manufactured there it is driving up costs due to shortages. Actually, the jobs are in China to increase profit margins for business owners. Lower labor costs = more money for them. Any "savings" from lower labor costs will not be passed on to the consumer. It sounds logical - you can make products for less there due to the human rights violations so you can keep prices down. In reality it doesn't happen. Everyone is actually worse off except for the business owner.
 
Louis,
Great post, hits the nail right on the head.

Manufacturers can keep raising the prices because the cost of production keeps going up and rather than take less of a profit, they raise prices accordingly to keep profits high, but the consumer at some point says enough is enough and stops buying; it's all about supply and demand.

Once the demand drops to due rising retail prices and the supply goes up because the items are not selling, the prices will have to come down or stock will sit around and collect dust. Look at the price of gas; it hit 4.00 a gallon and people said enough is enough, they cut way back on driving, started using public transportation and BANG, demand dropped below supply. I just returned from Lancaster last Sunday from Historicon and usually, getting back to Massachusetts past all the Jersey Shore traffic and the traffic near 287 from the Hamptons in the past was a nightmare; last Sunday, it took me exactly 30 minutes longer to get home, where as in years past, it took several hours longer.

Gas prices around here dropped about 25 cents since July 4th, down to 3.79 for regular gas. When was the last time gas prices DROPPED during the summer, they always jam you and raise prices, but not this year. Predictions are prices will continue to drop, perhaps as much as another 20 to 25 cents by labor day, down to about 3.50 a gallon. All in all, not bad really, all due to consumers saying enough is enough.

And Ron, enlighten me as to how the price of a candy bar that was 10 cents what, almost 40 years ago has anything to do with toy soldier prices going through the roof. Your talking a 90 cent increase over 40 years vs price increases with almost every new release, it's like comparing apples to hand grenades, not a very good comparison at all.

You sound like my 80 year old father telling me how he remembers gas at 25 cents a gallon and a loaf of bread was a nickel and my reply is "Ok Dad, but you were making what, 57.00 a week at the time, it's all relative".....:rolleyes:
 
I thought all the jobs went to China so things could be cheaper. Now we are told that since everything is manufactured there it is driving up costs due to shortages. Actually, the jobs are in China to increase profit margins for business owners. Lower labor costs = more money for them. Any "savings" from lower labor costs will not be passed on to the consumer. It sounds logical - you can make products for less there due to the human rights violations so you can keep prices down. In reality it doesn't happen. Everyone is actually worse off except for the business owner.

Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha.......Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha...............
I'll let you into a not so well kept secret Doug. No-one, not you, not me, not the UN, not the US or UK governments - or any of the rest of the bleeding hearts (me included) will ever make a difference to the human rights violations in China - or anywhere else that it happens.
Curious, but I don't see you harping on about Mugabe stamping all over human rights in Zimbabwe. Similarly, I don't think you've ever highlighted the human rights of the WHITE farmers who were kicked out of Rhodesia by the self-same tyrant......oh, of course, they were WHITE farmers.....so I guess they and their families don't matter. Only the last vestiges of filthy British colonialism anyway, weren't they?
 
I think even if petrol prices do retreat a little , its only going to be a temporary reprieve .[Indian car makers are currently trying to produce a
budget car for the masses] and why wouldnt they strive for what we have
all taken for granted.
Regardless of which way it goes its a bit of a wakeup call for a world totaly reliant on a single source of energy.
As has been pointed out the fact we have the money to collect puts us
in the top few % of the worlds population so we are very fortunate.
 
Good posts. I hate paying £1.30 per litre for diesel, is that around 12$ per gallon? Public transport is hardly cheaper though.

And don't forget the tax!!!!!!!!!! VAT at 17.5 % hurts.

Even after paying import duty and shipping from the US it was cheaper for a long time - how can that be right? My son has a torch made in Germany but cheaper to buy from Canada - how can this be? Taxes distort and everyone forgets carbon footprints - whatever they are.................

Perhaps if people realise, we may start making things ourselves again?:eek:
 
You can tell things are tight. When money is flush I get lots of rubbish emergency referrals for tummy pain which turn out to be nothing serious. For every 5 emergency tummy pains you see you get one serious problem like appendicitis of a rottne gallbladder. When times are tight no-one bothers you with nonsense so the ratio get better more like for every tummy pain you see you see a guy with a real problem.'
Regards
Damian
 
Even if we have totally renewable energy sources within say 7 years, the demand for patroleum products will not drop, we make EVERYTHING out of OIL!!! while the majority is consumed as fuel, almost nothing is untouched by oil. there is no oil reserve shortage in the world, only the will to retrieve it.
The "Carbon Footprint" is a total misnomer. CO2 is great for the planet, as CO2 levels rise plant life flourishes which scrubs the air generating more oxygen. Statistical data shows no relevant co2 rise. Pollution is another matter, controling emissions is totally a waist of time if it excludes the developing nations such as China and India who are now the true polluters of the planet.
Ray
 
The Flamethrower set is a must but with the price increase I will let some sets go and focus more on unique figures.
Indeed K& C should sell their figures one by one : what do we need the soldier with rifle accompanying the flamethrower? Especially at this price!
 
Even if we have totally renewable energy sources within say 7 years, the demand for patroleum products will not drop, we make EVERYTHING out of OIL!!! while the majority is consumed as fuel, almost nothing is untouched by oil. there is no oil reserve shortage in the world, only the will to retrieve it.
The "Carbon Footprint" is a total misnomer. CO2 is great for the planet, as CO2 levels rise plant life flourishes which scrubs the air generating more oxygen. Statistical data shows no relevant co2 rise. Pollution is another matter, controling emissions is totally a waist of time if it excludes the developing nations such as China and India who are now the true polluters of the planet.
Ray

Bingo! The one big danger of freedom is its abuse by certain individuals. People are certainly free to live their life as they choose.....but to some thats no fun......everyone must live by their rules.

I believe in freedom, but I also respect the other persons freedom. I have been a non-smoker my entire life, yet I do not believe I have the right to insist other do not smoke. I am quite satisfied to sit in a non-smoking section of a resturant......that is no longer good enough, now there is no smoking in
resturants, public buildings, bars, some would have it outlawed out doors.:eek:

Nutjobs want you to walk everywhere.....only take so many breaths a minute, don't use electricity, or exhale.....while they ride around in jets and use limos.......but they buy Carbon Credits.

What are Carbon Credits you ask? You pay one of many different companies a fee and they give you credits to offset your carbon use.....Ha Haa Ha.
These companies take your money then spend a small percentage to hire people to go plant trees usually on government land.........You Have To Be
Kidding Me.

We really need to wake up! If you want to conserve thats great, knock yourself out, if you want everyone to do it in a democracy we must first vote before it becomes law.

One person does not make the rules alone......unless she is speaker of the house and will not allow our chosen represenatives to Vote on an issue 70% of us want.:eek::eek:
 
Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha.......Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha...............
I'll let you into a not so well kept secret Doug. No-one, not you, not me, not the UN, not the US or UK governments - or any of the rest of the bleeding hearts (me included) will ever make a difference to the human rights violations in China - or anywhere else that it happens.
Curious, but I don't see you harping on about Mugabe stamping all over human rights in Zimbabwe. Similarly, I don't think you've ever highlighted the human rights of the WHITE farmers who were kicked out of Rhodesia by the self-same tyrant......oh, of course, they were WHITE farmers.....so I guess they and their families don't matter. Only the last vestiges of filthy British colonialism anyway, weren't they?

Interesting that bleeding hearts are now associated with anti-communist viewpoints. Remember when Reagan called the USSR the evil empire? I guess he was a liberal. This is not a "human rights" discussion, but a discussion as to why China can produce toy soliders at lower prices (ie poor working conditions, long hours, no environmental standards, low wages etc).
 
Interesting that bleeding hearts are now associated with anti-communist viewpoints. Remember when Reagan called the USSR the evil empire? I guess he was a liberal. This is not a "human rights" discussion, but a discussion as to why China can produce toy soliders at lower prices (ie poor working conditions, long hours, no environmental standards, low wages etc).

Here is something I alway wondered.....even if production costs, and raw material costs are rock bottom....you would think the cost of shipping the items half way around the world would balance out the price.

Our tarff system was set in place to raise money for the government, and protect American jobs......of course that goes out the window with most favoried nation status.

Its a shame a simple pair of sneakers, or a shirt can't be made here in American and sold cheaper then something shipped half way round the world.
 
I too have cut back on the sporting events that I attend. Not per se because of the money but there really is no need with HD TV, it feels like your right at the game if you have a couple buddies over to kick back a couple cold ones with you. Also I get much more enjoyment going to my kids t-ball and soccer games then I would any professional game and next year will be great since my boy starts little league:D
 
A I'm spending my kids inheritance

B They will get a great collection

JP
 
In September 2007, K&C released EA18 "The Watchers" priced at $50 for two figures or $25 each figure.

In August 2008 (12 months later), K&C will release WS124 "Flamethrower Set" priced at $62 for two figures or $31 each figure.

$62 minus $50 is $12.
$12 divided by $50 is a 24 percent increase in 12 months.

At this rate of increase, in five years a set of two figures will sell for $182.

My question is this:
Has the cost of production actually increased by an appropreiate amount close to 24 percent or is K&C increasing its prices to not only meet increased production costs but to maximize profit margins on a per figure basis. In other words, was $25 a sales price that was cheaper than it should have been to meet K&C's profit margin goals?

And,

If fewer sets are sold at $62 for two figures, with a 24 percent price increase in one year, does the new price make the amount of profit close to the amount of profit for figures that sold at $50 per set a year ago?
 
Here is something I alway wondered.....even if production costs, and raw material costs are rock bottom....you would think the cost of shipping the items half way around the world would balance out the price.

Our tarff system was set in place to raise money for the government, and protect American jobs......of course that goes out the window with most favoried nation status.

Its a shame a simple pair of sneakers, or a shirt can't be made here in American and sold cheaper then something shipped half way round the world.

I agree. I worked many a container vessel, watch them come in loaded to the max with FULL cans from China, be loaded back with EMPTY cans for the return voyage.Bulk cargo , grain ect is about all I was see being exported.

Casting metal has DOUBLED in 2 years. Near $14 a POUND for lead free casting alloy.That goes with all metals. Thru the roof. Thieves are stealing the guard rails off bridges ect for Pete's sake.

FUB
 
Please steer clear of politics as I have noticed several political views and agendas creeping into the conversation. It is a challenge to discuss certain issues without bringing politics into it, but our members are creative intelligent individuals and I know you can do it ;).
Thanks,
 
A I'm spending my kids inheritance

B They will get a great collection

JP

Lol, I'm sure my boy would appreciate my collection but I'm pretty sure my daughter won't be since my wife has already turned her into a "girlie" girl.
 
I recently spoke with a western manufacturer whose products are made in China about price increases in Chinese made goods. He told me that part of the increase is coming from the Chinese workers who have become better informed and like American workers are asking for higher wages commensurate with their rising consumer culture as well as health insurance and other benefits like the economic model they see in the west. As Chinese factory costs increase this will lead to additional increases in Chinese made products such as military miniatures. Perhaps if the price to manufacture such items in China gets too high we will see a return to more manufacturing in the west once again.
 
Someone told me recently they closed a plant in TN that attached shovel handles to the blade. Instead they ship the two parts to China - have them attach the parts - and ship back to the US.
 
Someone told me recently they closed a plant in TN that attached shovel handles to the blade. Instead they ship the two parts to China - have them attach the parts - and ship back to the US.


Lets just hope thats not true!:eek:
 

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