Hi guys, i just got back from chicago and i have to tell you that after seeing the king tiger in person that there is no way i would skip purchasing this tank. Pictures do not do this justice. When you see the take loaded up with tank riders, and realize that that there is enough space to properly put them on and after you see the sublety of the camo paint job you will know why i am so excited. So my advice to all members is to purchase this beauty. I also attended the dinner at chandlers chop house and i must say that everybody invovled did a fabulous job. The food was great, the talks were great and the fellowship among our fellow collectors was priceless. So i just wanted to say thanks and hope we can do it again next year. As far as andy doing a jagdtiger or su152 there is hope yet.