Jagdpanther
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Just wondered how many of you guys collect this range? I do by the way.
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thebritfarmer
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I don't collect it but I do think it is a great range possibly my favourite by K&C. SOme of the new pieces that will be coming out look amazing.
cantinetozzo
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I have some piece..they are really good indeed, some of the most striking resemblances in the toy soldiers range..Hitler ,Hess, Bormann,even Mussolini (the figure has less "jaw" than the real one)..and even the nazi ordinary trooper bear on the sleeve the band "Adolf Hitler"..one can argue if they are "politically correct" but they are wonderful pieces nonetheless...
Panzer ace
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It is my favorite K&C line.
amhuff1
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LAH is the reason I started collecting K&C as well. I have most of the LAH series only missing the early stuff. My collecting habits now however include almost all of WW2 plus WW1 plus some Crusaders for good measure.
kilted vampire
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They are wonderful looking indeed. They are also "a warning in miniature" I never forget for all their glamor they were the Bad Guys.
I have three versions of Hitler's staff car and most of the personalities, but I do not really collect the rest because if I were to realistically display them, I would need to buy several figures of the same. I cannot afford to keep up with all the releases. Besides, I wouldn't have room to display them on parade. Once in a while, however, there are pieces that I just have to have, for example, the motorcycle with the side-car and the Krupp truck. I got the truck recently and it looks great with Hitler on the staff-car (Paris version) and the motorcycle. There is something about those black uniforms...
Mascleo
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Ah, yes. Hugo Boss did know how to design impressive looking uniforms. I am surprised they still kept the name of the company after World War II. But, its history never did stop it for being successful.
Capitolron
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Personally its a little bit of a political tightrope - these figures do strike a hard political response - something that does not really occur with German Fighting figures.
I have my German WWII fighting figures at home - I have shown people who admire my collection at the office a brochure on the NAZI Figures - they look at me and shake their head in disapproval. The funny thing - no one has sad a word about my German WWI figures (1914) - I guess that War didn't leave that big of a mark as the WWII figures. Go figure ?
I have my German WWII fighting figures at home - I have shown people who admire my collection at the office a brochure on the NAZI Figures - they look at me and shake their head in disapproval. The funny thing - no one has sad a word about my German WWI figures (1914) - I guess that War didn't leave that big of a mark as the WWII figures. Go figure ?
SPICK0001
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I have a many of the figures and they make an incredible display. I agree the subject matter is touchy a area, but we have to remember they are not produced or displayed to promote the ideals of Nazi Germany. I think the pieces are some of the best detailed that K&C produces.
I think that there are some units, particularly LAH, where it is difficult separating the models from the war crimes of the originals. You would not get such a reaction with most other SS units like Hohenstauffen or Frundsberg.
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Its amazing how a lot of things get over looked sometimes.......adidas (addi dasla) designed the boots. Ford made the trucks!! but they all kept the same name and did not get any back lash as well which is more of a surprise. When my brother worked at the Global HQ of adidas he showed me the museum and office, which were in an old SS HQ, converted. In there were the prototype boots as supplie dto the german Ministry of Defence before mas manafacturing.
In the UK and most of europe the LAH range is the biggest seller of ALL the WWII items.
Note the LAH42 and 43 discontinued and stocks will be low!!
Tony Neville
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thebritfarmer
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I bet if you asked the average person on the street they would have no idea who made the uniforms for the Germans.
cantinetozzo
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Tony ..i don't know if some of you drink Fanta but i know the Fanta orange drink was created during the Nazi regime by the Coca Cola Company as an "ersatz" Cola (it was too american to please the germans)..
Mascleo
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Britfarmer: Yes, that does make sense and explains the answer to my question. Most people lack a historical knowledge. Ignorance may be bliss.
The people on this forum are a different breed though. I have learned a lot from the postings on Treefrog.
Tony: Thanks for the note about Adidas, I never knew that. You are correct that some US companies produced military weapons and other equipment for Nazi Germany. How were the companies that supported the German war effort punished?
There were several cases where German companies were fined and even some where executives were convicted of criminal acts. Almost all of these cases revolved around the use of forced/slave labor and use of prisoner of war. Some of these companies include Krupp, I.G. Farben, and Siemens.
However, many companies were never fined. Chrysler, GM and Ford all produced German military vehicles. Of the three, only Ford still actually managed the companies that were making vehicles in Germany. Ford even went to the extreme to demand the US government pay them reparations for the destruction of their factory in Cologne by US bombers!
Here is an article on the law suit against Ford. It was dismissed on expiration of Statute of Limitations. But it tells of the close relationship between Henry Ford and the Germany government.
http://www.bulldognews.net/issues_ford_slave_labor.html
(The US auto manufactures did participate in a voluntary reparations fund to victims of forced labor in the late 1990s.)
Hugo Boss was in a different situation than Adidas, Ford and GM. Prior to their production of Brownshirt and SS uniforms, they were a small company making raincoats and other clothing. Hugo Boss was an early Nazi Party supporter and was therefore given large contracts. His party affiliation was the cause of the company’s success while the other companies were well established prior to WWII.
What bothers me most about Hugo Boss is how I associate them with the uniforms. When I see their clothing line I immediately think about the SS uniforms. I do not have the same reaction to Ford. When I ponder about the history of Ford, the Model T first comes to mind. I think this is because the uniform and flags were the strongest symbols of Nazi Germany.
The actions of these companies during the war have not stopped me from purchasing from them. I have not brought any Hugo Boss products because they are a bit expensive compared to other clothing brands.
The people on this forum are a different breed though. I have learned a lot from the postings on Treefrog.
Tony: Thanks for the note about Adidas, I never knew that. You are correct that some US companies produced military weapons and other equipment for Nazi Germany. How were the companies that supported the German war effort punished?
There were several cases where German companies were fined and even some where executives were convicted of criminal acts. Almost all of these cases revolved around the use of forced/slave labor and use of prisoner of war. Some of these companies include Krupp, I.G. Farben, and Siemens.
However, many companies were never fined. Chrysler, GM and Ford all produced German military vehicles. Of the three, only Ford still actually managed the companies that were making vehicles in Germany. Ford even went to the extreme to demand the US government pay them reparations for the destruction of their factory in Cologne by US bombers!
Here is an article on the law suit against Ford. It was dismissed on expiration of Statute of Limitations. But it tells of the close relationship between Henry Ford and the Germany government.
http://www.bulldognews.net/issues_ford_slave_labor.html
(The US auto manufactures did participate in a voluntary reparations fund to victims of forced labor in the late 1990s.)
Hugo Boss was in a different situation than Adidas, Ford and GM. Prior to their production of Brownshirt and SS uniforms, they were a small company making raincoats and other clothing. Hugo Boss was an early Nazi Party supporter and was therefore given large contracts. His party affiliation was the cause of the company’s success while the other companies were well established prior to WWII.
What bothers me most about Hugo Boss is how I associate them with the uniforms. When I see their clothing line I immediately think about the SS uniforms. I do not have the same reaction to Ford. When I ponder about the history of Ford, the Model T first comes to mind. I think this is because the uniform and flags were the strongest symbols of Nazi Germany.
The actions of these companies during the war have not stopped me from purchasing from them. I have not brought any Hugo Boss products because they are a bit expensive compared to other clothing brands.