steyr radio car opinion (1 Viewer)

stefanuccio

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hi guys
I have just received the steyr radio car in german gray from the battle of the bulge
It looks very nice and detailed
what is the general opinion about this item?
thanks
stefano
 
I have the AK version. I enjoy the vehicle and found it a change from the usual armor and jeeps. I like my model.
 
haven't seen it in person, but always thought the detail in pics of the painting was spot on, esp. the gritty, dirtier look to the vehicle, not the clean and shinny look on this one...Sammy
 
One of my favorite recent 'Bulge' releases-right up there with the PakWagen in my mind.
 
I think its great, i have had it on display for sometime,some individuals on the forum have stated that german softskins under no circumstances, would have been painted in German Grey in 1944 ?,therefore if you think they are correct placing it in a Bulge scene may be inaccurate but that does not diminish the fact that it is a great piece to have,just place it in a pre 1943 scene and you are good to go.I have placed it in a Bulge diorama out of personal choice and have posted photos of it on the forum. Ken
 
Interesting fact about the colour of the radio car in the ardennes
any chances that this vehicle could be placed on the russian front?
in this case it would be having some authenticity...
The colour of german vehicles were officially changed in febbruary 1943
any chance that this radio car would still be in this colour scheme?
stefano
 
any chance that this radio car would still be in this colour scheme?
stefano

Dunkelgelb required ochre. German ochre came from France...French ochre. Germans lost France and the ochre in mid-44. Factories were constantly getting bombed. Rear echelon equipment (softskins & artillery) always had low priority for Dunkelgelb.

Orders say tanks in the France '40 were supposed to be brown & grey. But most were grey.

Orders say tanks in France & Russia '42 were supposed to be grey. But most were tan.

There's a lot we don't know.
 
hi guys
sorry for the link is not working at all
It was a pic of a steyr 1500 radio in Hunghery 1944 still in the grey
Althought very rare in the grey camo scheme this vehicle was almost certainly in sand yellow at that time of the ardennes or would have been whitewashed.I am disappointed about the poor reserch that KC would appeared to have put in the steyr 1500 radio-car
A part the issue of the colour there is also the fact that this vehicle never had double tyres in the war period,and also in the case of the d.a.k. version it never serve in africa unless i mistake
stefano
 
Here's the translation:

Since the inception of the German military rearmament of the early thirties was required of the vehicle allowing the implementation of blitzkrieg tactics. One of the basic types of vehicles, the mean off-road vehicle Steyr 1500. Thanks to the generally good driving characteristics and durability of construction were ordered large quantities of these vehicles. A total of 12,450units produced in Austria between 1941 to 1944. Additional 5600 cars were produced under license in Germany for companies Auto Union and Audi. Thanks to three and a half litrovému engine power 85 hp and four-wheel drive car that was capable of operation in all possible terrains. It was produced in three main flavors: light trucks, wagon teams and luxury convertible for high military and government officials. For many of them were delivered various bodies, such as multi-purpose truck, fire, radio, ambulance and mobile workshops.

Steyr 1500 was also used as a towing vehicle for anti-aircraft guns Flak 30 and Flak 38th These weapons also can shoot directly from the top of the vehicle. Was used on all fronts from northern Russia to Africa. Needs for the highest state and military officials were determined Kommandeurs - Convertible.

Because the vehicle was used during the war, they were all used variants kamuflážního color. Initially used in Europe, gray Panzer Grau (RAL 6006), while in Africa it was the color of sand, or is there an emergency use a mixture of sand and glue. It was later replaced by a dark gray color yellow (RAL 7058) with green or brown spots. In winter, the vehicles were overcoating white washable paint.
 
Iam interested in the vast amount of opinions on here about colour. I have several pictures of these vehicles late war in Grey so, we must imagine that as the war progressed troops factories etc just used what they had.

The vehicle will fit into any diorama that you want and, will work no matter what paint instructions were set.

I have several pictures of a late panther coming from the factory in grey which,then saw action in Hungary with the SS.

I also have pictures from Kampfgruppe Pieper where some of his vehicles were all sorts of colours both tanks and softskinned vehicles so, a right mish mash.

Historical accuracy as it is should be taken with a pinch of salt as some proclaimed experts have got things really wrong and, made trheir reputations on such errors i.e. the death of Wittman and Richoffen to name a few.

Just enjoy your own diorama's and, put what vehicles you wish to in your winter dio's
 
Great post,Panzeraces,a true voice of reason on this subject.I have seen a photo of a Panther G fighting in Berlin 1945,with Zimmerit in squared sections on the turret sides and front glacis painted in all over Grey ? The caption may be incorrect as to location,ie Berlin,but there is no misidentification of the Panther,clearly in Grey. Ken
 
hi guys
sorry for the link is not working at all
It was a pic of a steyr 1500 radio in Hunghery 1944 still in the grey
Althought very rare in the grey camo scheme this vehicle was almost certainly in sand yellow at that time of the ardennes or would have been whitewashed.I am disappointed about the poor reserch that KC would appeared to have put in the steyr 1500 radio-car
A part the issue of the colour there is also the fact that this vehicle never had double tyres in the war period,and also in the case of the d.a.k. version it never serve in africa unless i mistake
stefano

The Steyr 1500 was one of the most produced WW2 trucks for the German army. It was definitely used in North Afrika in several variations as well as all other theatres of WW2.

The initial trucks were grey like all early war german vehicles and AFVs, so if this one was at the Battle of the Bulge, it was a long lasting one that had not been repainted and vehicles, especially soft skin ones were not usually repainted in the field. The vehicle could be used in any winter scene in Italy, the Eastern Front or Western Europe.
The fact that it is not whitewashed is fine because many vehicles were not whitewashed - mostly just front line AFVs.

If the truck was not grey it would most likely have been a mid-war dunklegleb dark yellow if it was in Europe. The colour of the AK version is correct.

The Steyr 1500 could be fitted with a 4 wheel rear axel, but I do not remember ever seeing WW2 photos of one in that configuration. It was only a 1-1/2 ton truck. The Steyr 2000 did often have a 4 wheel rear axel- it was a 2 ton truck.

Terry.
 
hy guys
thanks very much for all your feed-backs on this vehicle,all appeare to be very interesting .
I have an open mind and i appreciate all the opinion i can get.
Phantom especially thank you for your very expert reply,great post!
I will be very interested to have someone to post a pic or give suggestion on how to find pics of the double rear wheeal one used in the war,as a matter of curiosity
thanks again
stefano
 
I've always suspected that late in the war, the German military was much like a 'yard sale' with vehicles, uniforms and weapons scraped from depots and motorpools throughout the reich-and that would have allowed for a lot of variation in vehicles and colors-but that's just me.
And the winter radio car certainly met my 'wow factor' criteria.
mike
 

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