Repainting old Barclay and Manoil Dimestore figures. Is it acceptable? (1 Viewer)

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G'day Guys, I've been busy and away from the forum a bit. I am looking at buying some old Dimestore figures ie, Barclay or Manoil. Some are not bad condition but, command a high price, but others are knocked about a bit, and therefore cheaper. What is the thinking on repainting these in the collector world? I kind of think that if it is pretty bad, then the restoring of an old soldier to his/her former glory wouldn't hurt. What are your thoughts? Also anybody got any for sale? Cheers guys, Johno.{sm4}
 
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Hi Johnno - You raise an interesting question there - and one I will follow with interest - as I wonder also what oher people's views are.

Well - to start you off - here are some of my thoughts about this question.

Although I am not a collector of the figures you mention - I guess they will apply to any manufacturer. The ones I know best are Britains - so this is what I think.

Firstly, I regard myself as the temporary custodian of my finds - some of which may be older than me ( and that's saying something!). Now I'm a painter - of sorts - and love to get my brush to work on most things that come my way.

BUT - I'm a bit more cautious these days - before I start. First thing to assess is the rarity of the piece. Is it a rare example. Also, is it complete (e.g. any limbs missing). What is the paintwork like - i.e how much missing. I think that if it was rare and had a fair proportion of its paint intact - I would tend to leave it alone. Some future collector may not bless me from slapping a new coat of paint all over it - or even touching it up a bit (CAN significantly de-value a piece).

On the other hand - if (as happened to me recently) a figure turned up - about sixty years old - with no head - missing one arm and lance - whilst the horse had two legs missing - and couldn't stand up (answered to the name of "Lucky";) - well - no problemo - a repair and repaint was called for. In other words - if it won't stand up and looks awful - I think the full monty is called for in that case.

Another example: I recently picked up a Britains Madame Tussauds souvenir figure. Sort of rare - made 1935-ish - intact but with worn paint. I was tempted to re-paint - but held back. Its old enough and not many are about - so to a future collector - it could be a nice piece to own in its original (not bad) state. Now I don't collect as an investment - I never part with any of mine anyway - but value needs to be considered too. A re-painted rare piece can be made almost worthless by repainting.

I left it alone. He's in with my new stuff - and looks a little shabby - but is growing on me as an original piece, and - I think - a nice thing to have in my collection.

Last thing is though - YOU have paid your money - and they belong to you - so you CAN do what you like with 'em. BUT - neither you nor I will be around forever - and the ones you recently bought were owned by somebody else once. I always say a little "Thankyou Pal" whenever an oldie turns up who has been cared for by someone else in the past. I hope they can hear me - and I hope whoever gets mine when I have gone, will think the same about me.

In other words - just use your common sense in assessing whether to re-tuch - or repaint. If in doubt - leave it alone for a while - and re-think it over - and decide what to do later.

Hope that starts the discussion off okay - and hope that helps 'cos that's what I think. johnnybach
 
G'day Guys, I've been busy and away from the forum a bit. I am looking at buying some old Dimestore figures ie, Barclay or Manoil. Some are not bad condition but, command a high price, but others are knocked about a bit, and therefore cheaper. What is the thinking on repainting these in the collector world? I kind of think that if it is pretty bad, then the restoring of an old soldier to his/her former glory wouldn't hurt. What are your thoughts? Also anybody got any for sale? Cheers guys, Johno.{sm4}

Repaint them and have fun! There is a small but dedicated and talented group of dimestore collectors who do convert old figures, including casting new pieces, and either "restore" them to represent the original subject, and even to create figures that Barclay and Manoil never made, eg, WWI and WWII Germans.

Here are some conversions by Roger Dubois, which he entered in the MFCA exhibition this year:

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So please do, and let us see how you do it and your finished figures! It'll be nice to have a dimestore fan active in the forum.

Prost!
Brad
 
I see no reason not to paint old scratched figures. Some rare ones I don't repaint but more common ones look better restored. Not much

difference unless you only want original untouched figures. I have seen nice repainted or restored figures sell for more then original ones

that are scratched up or broken. Here are some restored and original figures. I get pleasure out of making a old beat up figure look like

new. John
 

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G'day Guys, You have not only answered my question but made my day. I love to restore old glories in their orininal youth. Knowing the acceptable practice is important for the future value, but so is personal pleasure. I agree with the thinking that if it's in really bad shape then it requires resuscitation back to life, and if in reasonable state then leave alone. I still love doing my glossies and Battles in Bottles, and a theme I haven't shown yet called figurines in glass but, there is something quaint about the Dimestore figures in their limelight. Thanks Johnnybach for your thoughts and the great pictures ( fantastic paintwork ) from Leadmen and the Baron. Appreciated guys. Cheers, Johno.
 

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